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Ben Tennyson (Ben 10) vs Luffy (One piece)
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Dafuq guys, I had this handled. Chill.
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Nah man I'm not like Greenshifer who seriously think big chill can phase through concepts
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But seriously I was joking...
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gear 2 already has enough ap to kill ben, luffy is going to kill him without even wanting to
high 7-A vs 7-A, yes he will
the moment the big bang activated it and almost did that, the omnitrix just knows what will or will not, that is not elaborated, it just works that way
if you say so
does a high 7-A blows kills a 7-A? yes or no?
reading the profiles he doesn't have that type of resistance, it is not even close tbh
why would he use a barrier when he is trying to punch someone directly?
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THIS IS BOOOOOORING.
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Didn't care, didn't ask plus you're scum
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#FACTS
Eminiteable
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I already brought this up but Luffy can sense how powerful an opponent is, he isn't going to accidentally kill his opponent
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Stop saying this. It has enough AP to badly hurt, and incapacitate.
On top of that, let's say what you're saying is true.
Why would the omnitrix know that Luffy is strong enough to kill him?
No, it won't
Are you comparing the tool that birthed the universe to a punch?
"It just works that way" no it doesn't
No
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1) It protected ben from a low 1-C attack so there is no reason for why it won't pretect him against a High 7-A attack
2) most of ben ultimate aliens are high 7-A so Luffy isn't one shoting anything not only to mention master control and the automatic alien switch
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7.5 is an enough gap to one shot tho, that is what it is accepted in the wiki
analyzing i assume, it is never really explained how does it work, it kind of just does
one shot standards say otherwise
for the omnitrix both are the same, a force going against its user, the way it is described is "it has a failsafe that won't let ben die" that's it
one shot standards
if that is true then nothing really changes much, ben will see that brute force doesn't work and just go to the haxy aliens soon enough and, well, it was said earlier
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Nothing that omegabronic has said makes any senes to me. He just keeps saying "luffy is going to kill Ben without wanting to" that implies Luffy is dumb.
Bro Ben 10 arguments are soo ass in this thread.
Bro Ben 10 arguments are soo ass in this thread.
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One shots ≠ killing
Hit em with the Bellamy
Hit em with the Bellamy
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It kinda is, wiki always assumes something isn’t potent/strong unless proven otherwise. Like becoming a certain type of wave would allow Law’s sword to do what it does.
My English is excellent, thank you very much.
You’d have to provide evidence for why Law’s sword’s phasing works in a way that energy attacks can’t counter it for reasons I already explained.
I think Ult. Echo Echo had NPI before, I already explained what happened and the page is pretty vague so my explanation is fine.
I’d love to see you try. I’ll DM you on Discord when I’m back from my break. You got much experience debating people who know their stuff?
Your interpretation of the soundwave weakness contradicts the potency of BC’s phasing. Hence me talking about unaccepted things.
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Honestly i still don't see how Luffy one shoting Ben is even an option if ben has access to High 7-A aliens which would put them at the same tier as luffy
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Heatblast is the best alien
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False
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Being in the same tier doesn't stop one shots. For example someone could cap at 50 Gigatons but another characters who is one hit killing 50 Gigatons characters yet both would still be rated at island level.
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Skypiea Luffy > Gods
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Actually, we don't accept that in vs matches
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Intangibility doesn't mean you can't hear.
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But we do, characters with massive scaling chains that show they one shot previous characters will one shot people with capped AP below those who got one shot. It's why we have scaling chains.
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Thought we didn't allow that in cross verse matches
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Well I half to check the rules again (they changed all the time) but I don't recall this.
It's mainly why you'd see people asking for scaling chains or what's the ap difference. It'd be pretty wrong to cap a character who has a scaling chain of one shoting 10 people (each above the next) down to another characters level who caped at the first characters level in the other guys scaling chain just because their in the same tier.
But hey, if we don't use it then just ignore my posts.
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I think Ben's aliens scale to 176 megatons, Luffy scales to 700, 3.98x diff. If Luffy goes G2 (which, from my brief search, is a 10x multiplier) it becomes 7 gigatons, or 6-C. The strongest of Ben's aliens appear to cap at just under 2 gigatons. If he isn't in one of those forms, then he gets negged by an almost 40x AP difference, no?
At that point, that'd kill him, failsafe, turns him into Big Chill/Ghostfreak, gg.
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This is the beginning of time skip Luffy who is High 7-A in Gear 3 , 6-C with gear 4 but it's restricted
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Oh, got it. I couldn't find a multiplier for G2 so I just took the first thread I found on here with databook references and such.
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See above, I already was corrected. No need to double down.
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I think it's a 5x multiplier difference but I'm not sure
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Instead of just saying "no" and clogging up the thread with unnecessary replies, if you know what it is would you like to tell us or point us in the general direction?
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Check his damn profile and the verse page and stop trying to find random wrong multipliers
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This thread is oversaturated ash.
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