Eminiteable
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Normally Gear 2nd scales above his base self who scales anove. 776 Megatons.
With his Jet Gatling he scales to High 7-A for destroying Doflamingo's Black Knight.
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Ben Tennyson (Ben 10) vs Luffy (One piece)
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With his Jet Gatling he scales to High 7-A for destroying Doflamingo's Black Knight.
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Genuinely cannot find a value. Luffy's Gear 2nd is just "much higher than base" and can beat up a Pacifista, who is also 7-A for "trading blows with Gear 2nd Luffy". Circular, so I guess it just upscales above his base like Eminiteable said.
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Huh? I really thought that it was a 5x multiplier based on the fact that base Luffy matched Blueno with 800 doki while luffy had to use gear 2nd to match lucci who had 4000 doki
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There aren't really any consistent multiplier in One Piece, huh?
If there were, I swear we'd be in 5-C.
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Multiplier for Gears is inconsistent.
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Read the profiles and read that blog
Blueno <<<<< Blueno With Rokushiki ~ Base Luffy ~ Base Lucci
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The Omnitrix does not accept mutant humans so even if he can scan Luffy the watch would immediately reject him
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Chopper, Fish mans, Mink tribe,....ect all of those can 100% be accepted by the watch sure
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I could had swore devil fruits does alter DNA of a person enough for them to be different. Literally one can turn into a giraffe.
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Zoans are different, but Luffy's isn't shown to alter species without Awakening.
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Which still has the DNA of a human. OP doesn't consider zoan humans = regular animals
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Can the Mink tribe be scanned by the watch? Just curious
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idk. can dogs and cats be scanned by the watch?
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If they have enough sentience
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Wildmutt
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what about pitbulls
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#FACTS !
Finally someone spoke it !
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bro doesn't fail safe stop ben from getting killed accidentally by luffy
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Why wouldn't luffy just hold back a bit and knock him out? Done it multiple times.
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EDIT: Every time you ready "master control" I actually meant to say "failsafe" it's just that brain no work much good.
(this is not a vote since I likely can't follow the thread so I can't really keep up with counterarguments, I'm just giving some imput + my opinion on who wins from what I understand about both)
Ok so from what I've read (sadly never followed Ben 10, I'd like to start tho) IC Ben starts with the "beatstick" type aliens and master control only activates if he were to die.
Not gonna lie these things (+ the AP advantage Luffy seems to have if I got that right...at least with his amps) make me feel like it's a bad matchup for Ben.
Don't get me wrong he 100% has the tools to win but his ass is getting KO'd in CQC in very few hits (AP+Speed with G2+kenbun+general skill issue) so I doubt he'll get the chance to use them in time, on top of that kenbun makes sure Ben won't die since it will allow Luffy to hold back just enough, since Luffy usually avoids killing, and this makes sure master control does not activate. (whatever "Luffy tried to kill but failed" argument may be brought up is also shut down by kenbun since if Luffy were to almost kill Ben he will see master control activate and hold back regardeless)
This is what I got from the previous 6 pages, feel free to point out what I got wrong.
(this is not a vote since I likely can't follow the thread so I can't really keep up with counterarguments, I'm just giving some imput + my opinion on who wins from what I understand about both)
Ok so from what I've read (sadly never followed Ben 10, I'd like to start tho) IC Ben starts with the "beatstick" type aliens and master control only activates if he were to die.
Not gonna lie these things (+ the AP advantage Luffy seems to have if I got that right...at least with his amps) make me feel like it's a bad matchup for Ben.
Don't get me wrong he 100% has the tools to win but his ass is getting KO'd in CQC in very few hits (AP+Speed with G2+kenbun+general skill issue) so I doubt he'll get the chance to use them in time, on top of that kenbun makes sure Ben won't die since it will allow Luffy to hold back just enough, since Luffy usually avoids killing, and this makes sure master control does not activate. (whatever "Luffy tried to kill but failed" argument may be brought up is also shut down by kenbun since if Luffy were to almost kill Ben he will see master control activate and hold back regardeless)
This is what I got from the previous 6 pages, feel free to point out what I got wrong.
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Switch my vote to Luffy actually. As much as I want Ben to win, his wincons depend on him choosing a specific alien off the bat which is completely different to how he normally fights (i.e Ghostfreak for possession which isn't IC or NRG to irradiate Luffy to death which just doesn't happen that much). On the other hand, Luffy has a pretty big AP advantage (4-ish x) and with G2 all he has to do is lay Ben out with a punch to win by incap.
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Well he does both things in character.
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That's not how master control works like at all
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I should have specified, I meant he doesn't do them often. Since Luffy isn't an immediate threat to his life and Ben tends to go with aliens like Humongosaur or Fourarms (i.e CQC) he gets absolutely washed by G2 Luffy.
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Luffy : 11
Ben : 8
Incon : 6
Grace time
Ben : 8
Incon : 6
Grace time
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DD has a Ben 10 channel with 3K subs... excuse me WTF?
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I have a bad case of the gigadumb, I meant the failsafe
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Yeah you're just fodder indeed.
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