Ben 10 Big Alien X Update!

[DonkeySlayer06]

Yes, here we go!

First of all, as you know, in Ben 10 season 1 episode 7, Annihilarg explodes and destroys everything. Benjamin turns into Alien X and recreates the universe. I doubt that the "creation" mentioned here is really a creation. Because when I watched the episode, it seemed that Alien X did not recreate the universe, but placed the galaxies and other structures in the part destroyed by Annihilarg through his OWN BODY.

So what is happening here is not a creation but the placement of a 26-dimensional universe in the destroyed area.

The main part that needs to be addressed here is how Alien X houses these structures. If you look at the episode, first of all, when Alien X moves the galaxies, it is seen that Alien X's body is missing from its own body and that the whiteness on Alien X's body is missing.
What is happening here is that Alien X is not a dimensional storage but directly on its own body.
The other evidence that we have is that Alien X is actually an avatar that was formed and I have some information from an old HDE revision about the higher dimensional existence of Alien X.

To summarize, the purpose of this revision is simply that Alien X did not actually create the universe, he placed the universe in the destroyed region through his own body and it is exactly the same as the other universe except for 2 differences. The universe Annihilarg destroyed is 26-dimensional.

Alien X's ability to "Creation" should be removed and a 26 Dimensional Higher Dimensional Existence should be given.


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I agree:
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[zaraus]

l agree

 

[Georredannea15]

I will answer soon. But this is basically not HDE, especially considering a few things in the verse and the new HDE standards

 

[Quintessence_PE]

This is just a simple feat of creation.

 

[DonkeySlayer06]

This is just a simple feat of creation.

I mentioned above that this is not a creation.

 

[Georredannea15]

I mentioned above that this is not a creation.

But what is shown on stage is still a creation feat. Even if it takes parts of his body, the universe is basically made with a "energy" and creation, Doing it with an energy completely takes away HDE because HDE only deals with the axis you have, not to mention that 3-D beings can interact with AX.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

I mentioned above that this is not a creation.

You interpret it according to your own needs, that's all you do.
every week I see a new alien x upgrade and most of it is bullshit

 

[Aolphl]

To summarize, the purpose of this revision is simply that Alien X did not actually create the universe,

Starbeard: Did you think it would escape our notice when you utilized your Celestialsapien form Alien X to recreate the entire universe and everything in it?

Source

 

[Floxiaaa]

I don't see enough evidence for hde here. Creating a 26 dimensional universe from his body is not enough for him to get a 26 dimensional hde. He is a character who already has the ability to 'create'. More context and evidence is needed for this situation.

 

[DonkeySlayer06]

Source

Then there is a contradiction. We have seen that what Alien X did to "create" the universe were actually parts of his own body, and his profile states that he did it through telekinesis. Again, you can see that the dots coming out of his body are missing.

 

[DonkeySlayer06]

I don't see enough evidence for hde here. Creating a 26 dimensional universe from his body is not enough for him to get a 26 dimensional hde. He is a character who already has the ability to 'create'. More context and evidence is needed for this situation.

Characters who embody or are a literal timeline / spacetime continuum (The entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) on a universal scale can also be considered for Higher-Dimensional Existence (4-D). Alien X has exactly that, and the creation feat comes from the fact that it's not a creation from the beginning, as we saw in the scene, but it's actually putting something in there that's in its own body.

 

[Georredannea15]

Then there is a contradiction. We have seen that what Alien X did to "create" the universe were actually parts of his own body, and his profile states that he did it through telekinesis. Again, you can see that the dots coming out of his body are missing.

The energy it used before that and the fact that it created the universe by using this energy with materials clearly shows that these structures are not directly 26-D, even the use of the term "creation" supports this very much.


Apart from this, let us come to some problems within the verse.

Your suggestion is that AX's existence size like 26 dimensional universe(even bigger than that), but the problem is, was AX shown as such a large like a 26 dimensional universe in the verse? No, he hasn't. You can say that "for HDE, it doesn't need to be large on that axis", but according to your arguments, the 26-dimensional universe is covered by the structures that AX is pulling out of himself.

To cover a 26-dimensional universe, you need a 26-dimensional structure at least as big as that universe, but AX is only human-sized (or a little bigger than that).

You're claiming that a human-sized character can pulling enough material to himself for fill a 26-dimensional universe, but the argument is self-contradictory, it's like claiming that there is an infinite space inside a finite space. To have structures big enough to encompass a 26-dimensional universe within yourself, you have to be at least as big as that universe, but AX is not that big

Apart from that, the fact that 3D beings can interact with AX is another problem.

 

[Aolphl]

Then there is a contradiction. We have seen that what Alien X did to "create" the universe were actually parts of his own body, and his profile states that he did it through telekinesis. Again, you can see that the dots coming out of his body are missing.

WTF? Starbeard literally refers to Ben using Alien X to recreate the universe, and he is a Nigh-Omniscient. Also, in the scene you mentioned, Alien X does not take the earth out of his own BODY, he just creates it with some kind of energy wave.

 

[Aolphl]

The energy it used before that and the fact that it created the universe by using this energy with materials clearly shows that these structures are not directly 26-D, even the use of the term "creation" supports this very much.


Apart from this, let us come to some problems within the verse.

Your suggestion is that AX's existence size like 26 dimensional universe(even bigger than that), but the problem is, was AX shown as such a large like a 26 dimensional universe in the verse? No, he hasn't. You can say that "for HDE, it doesn't need to be large on that axis", but according to your arguments, the 26-dimensional universe is covered by the structures that AX is pulling out of himself.

To cover a 26-dimensional universe, you need a 26-dimensional structure at least as big as that universe, but AX is only human-sized (or a little bigger than that).

You're claiming that a human-sized character can pulling enough material to himself for fill a 26-dimensional universe, but the argument is self-contradictory, it's like claiming that there is an infinite space inside a finite space. To have structures big enough to encompass a 26-dimensional universe within yourself, you have to be at least as big as that universe, but AX is not that big

Apart from that, the fact that 3D beings can interact with AX is another problem.

Also, I remember Reiner saying about Alien X, "his body has lost its HDE, only he's Pocket Dimension has HDE" (or something similar).