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Right now, it's 7 votes to 4 for Mob, so grace has begun, though it's extremely likely others will come in to cast votes and break the grace.What is the vote count?
Do you need 11 votes for the result?Right now, it's 7 votes to 4 for Mob, so grace has begun, though it's extremely likely others will come in to cast votes and break the grace.
All damage is cellular. That's how taking damage works.AP: Tatsumaki destroyed Psykorochi on a cellular level, who believed herself to be able to fight a character who effortlessly one-shotted the character with the 5 exaton feat.
While Mob was able to casually nuke to oblivion a mob of characters who were overwhelming his 100% form (8 exatons) in one blow. So i'd say they are pretty even, if not a slight advantage for Tatsumaki.
He can also reflect attacks, project his soul (which should freak Tats out), create smoke manipulate electricity, plants, and straight up posses people. He wins this category by a massive amount.Hax/abilities: Mob takes the edge here with useful skills like energy absorption ( wich effectively makes him unable to run out of psychic power here while depleting Tatsumaki's. And while he can likely absorb attacks equal to his own i don't recall him ever absorbing out of being TKed) and healing (was able to instantly heal a broken arm vs Toichiro )compared to Tatsumaki's slightly better use of basics like TK and Barrier. ???% barely uses copied techniques and his mimicry is more based on powers that intrigue him rather than useful stuff for combat. (This will likely change in a few chapters of Tatsumaki's arc, however. )
You mean the childhood where she purposefully didn't use her powers?Experience/skill: While neither side has real formal training in H2H, Tatsumaki had a way rougher childhood,
I have to disagree. Minus a few parlor tricks, she really doesn't do much beyond use her brute strength. She constantly lets her guard down during combat, and she would have died to an inferior opponent had Genos not stepped in. She's cocky and always starts off casual, while Mob is going straight into ???%, so he might literally tear her to shreds in the first 5 seconds.and her fight vs Psykorochi is imo a significantly better fight IQ feat than anything Mob has displayed, as he often focuses on ocerpowering and ending conflict rather than fighting smart like say, Teruki. ???% also has never been in a real fight and therefore it's hard to predict what he'd do against a comparable foe ( considering both can likely measure eachother's powers. )
Eh, fairAll damage is cellular. That's how taking damage works.
I wouldn't say Orochi thinks he was beaten effortlessly with 1 shot, just beaten in one shot.
Tatsumaki > PsykoOrochi >> Orochi = 5.68 Exatons
Mob >>> casual 8.6 exaton feat. It feels like a stretch to say Tatsumaki scales above a character who themselves scale massively above a value that she scales from. Like we need to give Tats 2x the AP value she scales from to reach that conclusion.
Reflecting attacks won't do much more than TK attacks, projecting his soul in combat is out of character and a terrible move, since it leaves his body defenseless and Mogami said that if his body is destroyed while he's astral projecting not even he knows what would happen to his soul. (plus Tatsumaki can't even see him, but she could likely sense his psychic signature moving around.) Smoke doesn't do much since she can sense him, plants won't be that useful since the fight will likely take place in the sky, possessing people also requires astral project and is massively out of character in a fight.He can also reflect attacks, project his soul (which should freak Tats out), create smoke manipulate electricity, plants, and straight up posses people. He wins this category by a massive amount.
She did start after Blast scolded her for it, and has accepted her powers since them, wich is a lot longer than Mob.You mean the childhood where she purposefully didn't use her powers?
Tats can freely control her output, and unlike early Psykorochi fight has 0 reason to hold back. (Specially since she can likely sense how powerful her opponent is just like Fubuki.) I'd still say her fight vs Psykorochi is a better combat IQ feat than anything Mob has shown, as she survived for a long time against a foe that was using a drastically higher amount of power before she could let lose without hurting anyone. (specially since he himself also isn't that free from using more than brute strength,)I have to disagree. Minus a few parlor tricks, she really doesn't do much beyond use her brute strength. She constantly lets her guard down during combat, and she would have died to an inferior opponent had Genos not stepped in. She's cocky and always starts off casual, while Mob is going straight into ???%, so he might literally tear her to shreds in the first 5 seconds.
Considering Mob's fought scores of ghosts comparable to him in strength and destroyed several of them (albeit being overwhelmed in the end) and survived against a man who's been using his powers and amassing them for longer than the former has been alive, even holding his own when the latter's power surpassed him, long enough for his own strength to catch up, I feel that Mob isn't that far behind.Tats can freely control her output, and unlike early Psykorochi fight has 0 reason to hold back. (Specially since she can likely sense how powerful her opponent is just like Fubuki.) I'd still say her fight vs Psykorochi is a better combat IQ feat than anything Mob has shown, as she survived for a long time against a foe that was using a drastically higher amount of power before she could let lose without hurting anyone. (specially since he himself also isn't that free from using more than brute strength,)
Not sure about the range advantage since they are both capable of sending objects into space and both have a range the size of huge cities.It's very even but as Epicchev pointed out Tatsumaki has the speed, range, experience and battle IQ advantage.
Mob only relevant hax advantage here is Absorption, which Tatsumaki should notice and come up with an strategy against it. Also iirc ??? has only absorbed the power of beings considerably weaker than him.
I'm voting Tatsumaki but this battle is a really close one
I copied the Plank text, so they are highlightedyou don't need to bold staff lol it's a vs match
our votes are just as equal as staffs' in this case
Nah, it's been stated she doesn't have the control to move objects at those speeds without them disintegrating. Only Geryganshoop has the skill to eliminate friction when objects move that fast. This is stated on her profile, that such attack speed would only help if she's near objects that don't disintegrate at that speed. Personally, that's kinda stupid because who would know what objects wouldn't burn up at that speed, but the point is that no, her Relativistic attack speed wouldn't help. Besides, it's listed as possibly, which means there's an option of not adding it, and I've chosen not to add it for this match.Wouldn't her Relativistic+ attack speed help here?
IIRC he completely absorbed Toichiro and Sho's Charged Bomb with ease at ???%Mob's absorption has only been used on fodder at best. It's doubtful he's capable of considerably draining Tatsumaki considering he failed to absorb Toichiro's energy completely.
Yeah here it is. He casually absorbed their full powerIIRC he completely absorbed Toichiro and Sho's Charged Bomb with ease at ???%
Yeah, excluding that this toichiro clearly doesn't have the amount of energy he amassed for 20 years (i think) which he failed to absorb
You're right but not only was their first fight with 100%, but Toichiro also said in the chapter that he had no idea that their gap was this big, implying that even at his peak he would've stood no chance. Obviously, ???% is leaps and bounds stronger and far far more superior than Mob's 100%, so it wouldn't be a leap of logic to say that Toichiro's fully amassed Charged Bomb would've still been absorbed by ???% fairly easily.Yeah, excluding that this toichiro clearly doesn't have the amount of energy he amassed for 20 years (i think) which he failed to absorb
BruhVoting Tatsumaki because;
- I'm a simp
Tats LS - 1,15558624 * 10^16 kg;
- Range, speed and LS advantage
I agree. However, Mob has a lot of experience in the battle with equal opponents and this will equalize their chances.
- Better skill + experience
In this form, he simply did not encounter anyone equal. He may well do this to achieve the goal
- Mob barely uses any of the hax he possesses.
He has already absorbed a power that surpasses the key of 8 Exatons. In this vein, the percentage of power that he absorbed is just a casual wave of his hand
- Mob's absorption has only been used on fodder at best. It's doubtful he's capable of considerably draining Tatsumaki considering he failed to absorb Toichiro's energy completely.
What are you talking about? It's the same Mob, just straightforward and cold-blooded. The fact that he came across enemies that he could ignore and just move forward does not mean that he is stupid
- ???% is completely inexperienced and only used to fighting fodder. Unlike Tatsumaki who would be able to sense what level a fellow esper is on, ???% has no such showings and comes off more as a muscle for brains kinda person and mostly behaves like it lacks sentience at all.
?Tatsumaki has never shown a fight at a distance of a thousand kilometers
Toichiro said that Mob's casual attack gave him back a lot of his lost energy.You're right but not only was their first fight with 100%, but Toichiro also said in the chapter that he had no idea that their gap was this big, implying that even at his peak he would've stood no chance. Obviously, ???% is leaps and bounds stronger and far far more superior than Mob's 100%, so it wouldn't be a leap of logic to say that Toichiro's fully amassed Charged Bomb would've still been absorbed by ???% fairly easily.
She puts her psychic energy into rock clones and lessen her power to make the opponent think that she's the rock and catch them off-guard.Also, I haven't kept up with OPM. Does she have any new tactics aside from telekinesis that I'm forgetting?
But it's not thousands of kilometers. Hundreds at best.
Nope. She just overwhelms opponents with brute force.Also, I haven't kept up with OPM. Does she have any new tactics aside from telekinesis that I'm forgetting?
Except that we aren't scaling their AP but what he is cap able of absorbing. At the end of the day ???% is still mob's body and clearly has a limit to what he can absorb as shownYou're right but not only was their first fight with 100%, but Toichiro also said in the chapter that he had no idea that their gap was this big, implying that even at his peak he would've stood no chance. Obviously, ???% is leaps and bounds stronger and far far more superior than Mob's 100%, so it wouldn't be a leap of logic to say that Toichiro's fully amassed Charged Bomb would've still been absorbed by ???% fairly easily.
You're misunderstanding. Mob has a limit to the amount of energy he can absorb.He has already absorbed a power that surpasses the key of 8 Exatons. In this vein, the percentage of power that he absorbed is just a casual wave of his hand
Pretty sure 2nd msg said mob is 1,382e+15kgMob LS - >>1,382×10^16 kg;
Yeah, ???% is completely goal driven and bloodlusted. He will do whatever he needs to do to achieve his goals, even if it means hurting and nearly killing Mob's friends, something Mob himself would never do. If ???% realizes that he cannot defeat Toichiro with normal
Kinda contradictory considering mob himself has used hax (plant manipulation) on fodder.People should really stop acting like ???% is stupid or lacks sentience. They were fighting fodder, of course there wasn't any special moves used. We even get a mental conversation with him.
Bruh, the vessel absorbing the energy remains the same and that vessel already displayed a limit. Why would scaling higher with ???% improve surpass his absorption limit when the container is the same?Also, the failure to fully absorb energy that occurred was with 100% Mob. ???% shows no such issues.
Mob has already shown that it can absorb the energy of more than 8 ExatonsExcept that we aren't scaling their AP but what he is cap able of absorbing. At the end of the day ???% is still mob's body and clearly has a limit to what he can absorb as shown
You're misunderstanding. Mob has a limit to the amount of energy he can absorb.
He forgot to use multipliersPretty sure 2nd msg said mob is 1,382e+15kg