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This would only work if you argue they are embedded in a higher-D space (and still wouldn’t make them unconnected by space but it would make your argument a bit more logical)
Glad I’m not the only one who saw it.
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Battle of Gods 3-A Downgrade
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GodlyCharmander
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We can pixelscale it, yes.
We do know the shape, the Universe and light expands in all directions at the same speed, observable universe is a sphere.
We also do not need to pinpoint the location, assuming it's in the center is, quite literally, the worst case scenario, and the lowest possible end (as the observable universe will fill the most amount of space)
You honestly have not provided a reasonable argument as to why such a thing is impossible given the circumstances of the Dragon Ball Universe, like knowing the observable universe is smaller than the actual universe size, and knowing it's shape. I'm sorry.
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we literally have author notes that give context to the diagram, he's said if you put the real universe next to the macrocosm it would disappear entirely, he said heaven is as big as the universe, it was deemed impossible for Goku to IT to the kaioshin realm by kibito because it's so far away and a whole different dimension from otherworld, Gohan's ki was so strong at that point he could sense him from a universe away, it's been backed up not just by the characters in the story but the author himself
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Low 2-C alone would be the equivalent of destroying an uncountably infinite number of 3-D universes. Having multiple universe sized realms isn't enough.
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@Thedoctor This isn’t a 2-C thread. Stop derailing.
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NO GPE allowed for structures that big.
GBE would be even trickier because objects that massive should logically collapse into a black hole.
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So, will the destruction of Universe 7 be recalculated? And by whom?
GodlyCharmander
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OP doesn't say anything about the relation between the dimension, nor is it trying to make a point about it. It's currently accepted that the dimensions are just different spaces, the OP isn't trying to prove or disprove that, so yeah, bucko, it's unrelated and derailing.
If you wish to make a 2-C thread, be my guest to be coherently proven wrong by the same people who have been debunking this notion for years, but keep it OUT of this thread. I believe Mav already gave you a warning about it.
If you wish to make a 2-C thread, be my guest to be coherently proven wrong by the same people who have been debunking this notion for years, but keep it OUT of this thread. I believe Mav already gave you a warning about it.
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whatever you say buddy, all I did was completely disprove OPs claim that U7 is smaller then it actually was by giving evidence in the manga, the guidebooks and statements by toriyama himself, I was completely on topic the whole time, dont get mad because I have a completely valid opinion about this topic, it's rude to turn a completely civil conversation into a shit show when you could just let it go
GodlyCharmander
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I have no idea how one can be so delusional. It matters not, please just drop it entirely.
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You are kinda acting sensitively and aggressively. Act civil with members.
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I fully agree with the OP.
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Why are you agreeing with baseline 3-A when inverse-square law would not allow this even if we assumed normal universe diameter? Even OP admitted the correction to changing it to be 3.9x above baseline based on the manga Zamasu calc.
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Unless I'm mistaken the OP isn't proposing baseline? It says a certain amount x baseline.
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Huh, didn't see that edit being carried out. Oh well. Apologies.
GodlyCharmander
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You are misjudging the situation, and tackling the person who is replying to the one being uncivilized. My first reply was a unofficial warning and explaining as to why the person was derailing. It was ignored, called a uncivilized shit show, and Ad Nauseum. Saying he is delusional with his own views considering all of this is far from "aggressive", the member in question isn't particularly respectful too. Either way, do not jump into situations that were already defused with such judgmental comments, they might instigate conflicts. I also wish not to derail into my or the member's behavior any longer, so let us not continue this topic.
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Following.
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That was edited in the op. Besides its still wrong because it only factors in the mortal world instead of all the realms like the afterlife.
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The realms with unknown dimensions that are largely empty space?
I'll make room in the blog.
I'll make room in the blog.
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Them being empty doesn't matter though? They still would've encompassed those dimensions, and as long as there's a bit of matter at the edge of it, and it destroys it, it's good. It isn't like the calc is calculation mass destroyed, but rather wacky inverse stuff.
Nullflowerblush
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What would we be calculating, though? The energy required to destroy King Kai's planet from the edge of Other World?
This is a serious question, by the way.
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The energy to destroy everything up to the furthest point away from where they clashed.
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Why King Kai's planet tho? That would serve nothing.
The real explosion radius would be from the edge of the observable universe all the way to the Other World, while still keeping the assumption that you're destroying the PSR J0348+0432 at the edge like we do for our baseline 3-A assumption via inverse-square law.
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Not just your any typical "everything", but the "PSR J0348+0432" everything.
Why, you may ask? Because it is the most conventionally durable body currently known, and for one to truly destroy the entire observable universe and beyond, all bodies, including one as durable as PSR J0348+0432, must be destroyed, even if their location is at the edge of the observable universe.
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I'm gonna unfollow this shit before I get mad.
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Tbh Heaven being universe sized never sat right, when Grand Kai’s planet is shown as not completely dwarfed by it.
GodlyCharmander
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What's the fragmentation value of this shit?
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We don't use fragmentation value for astronomical bodies bruh, we use GBE for this shit, Assalt's blog already has it done for you, like, just swap in the Universe diameter with the distance between the edge and the other far edge of the Other World AKA that globe thingy rotating outside of the main universe globe
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Ig it's because of what has been shown in saiyan saga, after being intentionally killed by "picolo" in order to knock out reditz, Goku spent his time in other world and the number of days he spent there were no different than number of days passed on earth.
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