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Battle for who are the top 2 strongest Shounen jump MC.

But wait, since Goku's a SAIYAN, wouldn't the Death Note fail to work on hi---

Everyone else: SHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just let it happen bud...

Me: But, the Death Note only works on Humans. And last time I recalled, Goku's not a Human---

Everyone else: SHHHH! Just. Let. It. Happen.

Me: But...it says so right ther---

Everyone else: *Slowly grabs their own, individual Death Note.

Me: ...
 
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
...

  • Mumbles
I'll make it work, that's for sure...
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It's ok dude. All Goku has to do is train a bit more and he just might beat Medaka. All he needs is a few thousand more pushups and he just might stomp these 3 (bobo, seiya, medaka).
 
Cause, you know DB Logic:

You don't have to have haxes in order to get into the Tier 2+ range...

You just have to train. And then, by the next movie, you'll be neigh Tier 1 cause Toriyama's running out of ideas...
 
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
Cause, you know DB Logic:
You don't have to have haxes in order to get into the Tier 2+ range...

You just have to train. And then, by the next movie, you'll be neigh Tier 1 cause Toriyama's running out of ideas...
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See...u know what im talking about. I mean ofc it's logical to shake infinity with waves that don't shake the medium (since they move even in nothingness).....so yeah... . Next season goku shakes causality and starts shaking the concept of dimensions. Then next movie goku starts shaking the omnipotence just by existing. He ain't too far off. xD
 
Firephoenixearl said:
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
Cause, you know DB Logic:
You don't have to have haxes in order to get into the Tier 2+ range...

You just have to train. And then, by the next movie, you'll be neigh Tier 1 cause Toriyama's running out of ideas...
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See...u know what im talking about. I mean ofc it's logical to shake infinity with waves that don't shake the medium (since they move even in nothingness).....so yeah... . Next season goku shakes causality and starts shaking the concept of dimensions. Then next movie goku starts shaking the omnipotence just by existing. He ain't too far off. xD
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Funny thing is, I can TOTALLY see Toriyama doing this. I mean, DB's SELLING RN! And with threats like Zamasu (Who tried becoming the Multiverse), and Hit (A guy who could ****** with time) surpassed...

Idk where's he's gonna go from here. Honestly, if he sends out a threat who has INFINITE Haxes against Son Goku. And if Son Goku (Ultra Instinct) SOMEHOW manages to defeat that said threat, and if that said threat's like...2-B/2-A in Power, and if the Zeno's/GP are still WAY above that, and IF Toriyama ever confirms that the DB Multiverse is Infinite (He'll also likely do this), then...

Yeah. ****. However, since we're down into reality rn, i'm sorry Son Goku...
 
@Antorus

Yeah, he will still always lose to somehow like Medaka sadly. His attacks and resistances all work on a medium, that being Ki, a character that doesn't have such a medium such as Medaka will always beat him but eh.
 
Can I put an update on Son Goku for a minute?

Okay, so, the SSB Goku that fights SSJ4 Xeno Goku, is CC Son Goku. However, apparently, for CC Son Goku, the events in Super remain mostly the same for him. Meaning, he and Canon Son Goku are basically...well...for the most part at least, the same in Power. And he beats SSJ4 Xeno Goku (Who's 2-B in Power)...

...Can we upgrade Super Goku for that, since CC Goku's basically gone through the same shit Super Goku's gone through, at around the same scenario throughout the most part? Or...no? Cause...
 
Hmm.. that's not gonna happen probs cus u'r mixing cannon stuff with non cannon stuff.

Also on a side note: Ya feel like doing xeno goku/demigra vs Medaka?
 
I'd say Demigra could beat Medaka. 2-B Mind-Hax. It's not only his first choice but Medaka has never resisted Multiversal Mind-hax. With speed unequalized, I think Xeno Goku could win. He doesn't play around like Canon Goku. In that case tho, it'd be a stomp.
 
OuterversalSaibaman said:
I'd say Demigra could beat Medaka. 2-B Mind-Hax. It's not only his first choice but Medaka has never resisted Multiversal Mind-hax. With speed unequalized, I think Xeno Goku could win. He doesn't play around like Canon Goku. In that case tho, it'd be a stomp.
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Do they have a win condition? That's the best part. Though feel free to do it (21 got stomped).
 
You're right, that is the best part. Demigra via incapitation(mindhax into slave). Goku via sealing a.k.a incapitation only with speed unequalized(knockout then seal with Mafuba) 21 is not Multiversal like them, she also has less hax.
 
OuterversalSaibaman said:
You're right, that is the best part. Demigra via incapitation(mindhax into slave). Goku via sealing a.k.a incapitation only with speed unequalized(knockout then seal with Mafuba) 21 is not Multiversal like them, she also has less hax.
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Goku doesn't seem to have a win condition doe. Sealing won't deal with Medaka.
 
Do you ever sleep?XD If you count Bookmaker as sealing, it is still different than Mafuba. With Bookmaker, they are still allowed to move(Medaka fight with Kumagawa and Ajimu talking to Zenkichi), with Mafuba, you are sealed inside an unbreakable(at least from the inside) jar.
 
OuterversalSaibaman said:
Do you ever sleep?XD If you count Bookmaker as sealing, it is still different than Mafuba. With Bookmaker, they are still allowed to move(Medaka fight with Kumagawa and Ajimu talking to Zenkichi), with Mafuba, you are sealed inside an unbreakable(at least from the inside) jar.
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Sleep?

  • Googles "definition of sleep"*
1. Bookmaker did negate a seal that is exactly like the Mafuba jar (it seals you inside a card). As long as they can be defined using the word "sealing" Bookmaker can get out of it apparently. Though the other way doesn't seem to be true. Due to the fact that Bookmaker (a seal on part of you instead of the whole body) is a much more complex seal, if you can make parts of u separately get out of bookmaker you can make your whole body get out of a similar situation.

2. All Fiction also works. Medaka can just undo the action. So "Goku sealed her", that part is erased from reality...GG, Medaka is out.

We did conclude that Mafuba Jar wouldn't work either against Medaka in a Goku Vs Medaka thread.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Hmm.. that's not gonna happen probs cus u'r mixing cannon stuff with non cannon stuff.
Also on a side note: Ya feel like doing xeno goku/demigra vs Medaka?
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Yeah, but...still...

This is mostly done by Toriyama. And CC Goku's gone through the same stuff as Super Goku. Mostly in the same scenario as well. So, there shouldn't be that big a difference in Power. Canon or not, CC Goku's still just Super Goku, but with a SLIGHT difference in Story, but still mostly the same nontheless...but...but...at the same time...I...uhh...

IDK ANYMORE! D:
 
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
At this rate, Medaka could just erase Madoka and Homura from existence...
And they're basically abstract in their "God" forms...
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Well some versions of Madoka do get stomped by Medaka (others stomp Medaka). But idk why we'r talking about this.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
At this rate, Medaka could just erase Madoka and Homura from existence...
And they're basically abstract in their "God" forms...
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Well some versions of Madoka do get stomped by Medaka (others stomp Medaka). But idk why we'r talking about this.
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Cause Medaka's that ******* tough. My god...
 
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