Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)

[Setsuna_tenma]

Question, if a character has a piece of equipment that is smurf, but said piece of equipment is optional due to them not carrying it around usually as standard equipment, is that character still allowed?

yes

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Wei Huo for a spot in 2A

 

[Delta333]

Characters from Bastard!! for 1st spot at High 4-C, here is the match for that
Also bumping this

Konron in 1st spot of 5-B should be changed to "Characters from Bastard!!" as the Seraphs are 5-B too and they have pretty much similar hax.

I also suggest to change Satan in 2nd spot of 3-A to something like Satan (Bastard!!) as this is a common name in fiction.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Wei Huo for a spot in 2A

Done.

Characters from Bastard!! for 1st spot at High 4-C, here is the match for that
Also bumping this

Done, did the other thing to.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Remove Tensura Web Novel Characters (Such as Diablo) from 3th spot in 3-A .
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Diablo has 4D Law Manipulation and Layered 4D Acausality Type 4 and 4D Time Stop and more. (His profile is still incomplete.)
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Diablo's battle with Greeza and Satan were very long ago.

(Again)

Removed.

Remove Maou Gakuin Characters (Sasha & Misha) from 1st spot in 8-A.
I've realized they don't have the stuff that makes them OP in that tier.

Sasha could probably still take one of the lower spots with her eyes alone but I'm not ready to debate that. Once their profiles get revised, I'll see if they can.

Removed.

 

[azontr]

Can I ask what it is that is keeping Saint Seiya characters in their spot in Low 2-C? As in, what abilities do they have/how strong are they?

 

[Dragonite007]

Can I ask what it is that is keeping Saint Seiya characters in their spot in Low 2-C? As in, what abilities do they have/how strong are they?

Passive 4-D heat

 

[azontr]

Passive 4-D heat

And... that's it?

 

[Dragonite007]

And... that's it?

Aura, Perception Manipulation, Sense Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Life Manipulation, Statistics Reduction and Heat Manipulation (By being in the presence of a God. The six senses are rendered unusable and denied. The Gods radiate a divine aura that causes fear in the surrounding beings and forces them to obey their commands. The power that radiates from the Gods also causes the affected targets to be paralyzed. Their life force then starts to drain, and they then have their strength, speed, and durability reduced by being near a Gods cosmo. Powering up their cosmo causes the heat in the area around them to increase drastically, along with their attacks being imbued with intense heat)

 

[azontr]

And I ask again, is that it?

If it is, then Mori Dan should logically stomp them.

 

[Dragonite007]

Ask the @TheUnshakableOne, they are the one who put they in the list

 

[azontr]

Thanks.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Aura, Perception Manipulation, Sense Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Life Manipulation, Statistics Reduction and Heat Manipulation (By being in the presence of a God. The six senses are rendered unusable and denied. The Gods radiate a divine aura that causes fear in the surrounding beings and forces them to obey their commands. The power that radiates from the Gods also causes the affected targets to be paralyzed. Their life force then starts to drain, and they then have their strength, speed, and durability reduced by being near a Gods cosmo. Powering up their cosmo causes the heat in the area around them to increase drastically, along with their attacks being imbued with intense heat)

It's a bit more than that

 

[azontr]

It's a bit more than that

Would you mind explaining, then?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Would you mind explaining, then?

Might be a bit out doing errands

 

[Arkenis]

What does Mori Dan have?

 

[azontr]

What does Mori Dan have?

Several 4-D passives such as 4-D Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Aura/Empathic Manipulation which makes his opponents instantly submit to and pray to him, 4-D Existence Erasure and Resistance Negation, several forms of Power Nullification and Power Mimicry, and a bunch of other shit.

 

[azontr]

Might be a bit out doing errands

That's fine. Take your time.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Several 4-D passives such as 4-D Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Aura/Empathic Manipulation which makes his opponents instantly submit to and pray to him, 4-D Existence Erasure and Resistance Negation, several forms of Power Nullification and Power Mimicry, and a bunch of other shit.

Mori Dan is looking like a miniature version of Dracula from Castlevania.

I never thought he would reach this level of Hax.

 

[Arkenis]

Slight issue with the ordering. Ji Ning’s high 6-C keys have no counter to:

Ard’s Existence erasure, his power null, his immo type 8, can destroy souls, sealing

Sakanashi’s Existence erasure, Corrosion/Curse/Density/Unholy yin energy
Rokuros's Time manip, Decon, Extreme Heat, Power null, and energy control

Zommari's Amor also should be able to incap him though im unsure if incap is accepted for being put above, cant think of any one else

Ark Zero's madness type 3

I propose

1. Ard

2. Kame Rider

3. Bleach

4. Sousei characters

5. Ji Ning

bump

 

[XDragnoir]

Slight issue with the ordering. Ji Ning’s high 6-C keys have no counter to:

Ard’s Existence erasure, his power null, his immo type 8, can destroy souls, sealing

Sakanashi’s Existence erasure, Corrosion/Curse/Density/Unholy yin energy
Rokuros's Time manip, Decon, Extreme Heat, Power null, and energy control

Zommari's Amor also should be able to incap him though im unsure if incap is accepted for being put above, cant think of any one else

Ark Zero's madness type 3

I propose

1. Ard

2. Kame Rider

3. Bleach

4. Sousei characters

5. Ji Ning

Do the matches if you want.

Also, Zommari would be the only Bleach character able to defeat Ning, if that was the case.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Several 4-D passives such as 4-D Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Aura/Empathic Manipulation which makes his opponents instantly submit to and pray to him, 4-D Existence Erasure and Resistance Negation, several forms of Power Nullification and Power Mimicry, and a bunch of other shit.

Can the Fate and causality manipulation work on causality?

Does he have resistance to life manipulation, mind, and Paralysis?

Also, what can he do to having his 6 senses removed supernaturally?

 

[azontr]

Can the Fate and causality manipulation work on causality?

Does he have resistance to life manipulation, mind, and Paralysis?

Also, what can he do to having his 6 senses removed supernaturally?

1. Yes, it can.

2. He has resistance to mind and paralysis but idk about life. Either way he could simply nullify this.

3. Nullify it then copy the ability that does it, which would make him automatically resist it.

 

[Arkenis]

Do the matches if you want.

Also, Zommari would be the only Bleach character able to defeat Ning, if that was the case.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/strongest-non-smurfs-for-high-6-c-ji-ning-vs-ard-meteor.151003/

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

1. Yes, it can.

2. He has resistance to mind and paralysis but idk about life. Either way he could simply nullify this.

3. Nullify it then copy the ability that does it, which would make him automatically resist it.

The life Manipulation absorbs a UES power source which should on turn stop the Nullification as it instantly drains the source of power needed to power it.

 

[azontr]

The life Manipulation absorbs a UES power source which should on turn stop the Nullification as it instantly drains the source of power needed to power it.

There is no "energy source" that fuels abilities in God of Highschool. It's all just Borrowed Power which in turn doesn't have a source of energy.

 

[Arkenis]

Also, Zommari would be the only Bleach character able to defeat Ning, if that was the case.

I guess then Zommari would just share the spot with Ji Ning. Ard's match isn't really gonna go anywhere idt so may just forget that for now.

Do you have any problem with Ark Zero just going above Ji Ning via madness type 3 without a match? And I can do Saknashi vs Ji Ning

 

[Tatsumi504]

And I can do Saknashi vs Ji Ning

Sakanashi may be evil and deserve an ass whooping but for the love of all shonen out there don't put him against a chinaman

 

[XDragnoir]

Do you have any problem with Ark Zero just going above Ji Ning via madness type 3 without a match?

Not even a problem, i just like to debate my boy against all kinds of enemies, the more the better.

Edit: so you still have to do it.

Sakanashi may be evil and deserve an ass whooping but for the love of all shonen out there don't put him against a chinaman

Ha, Ning isn't even a strong Chinaman at this point of his life (he's actually kinda weak until his second profile, he has few layers and few bullshit hax in the first profile).

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

There is no "energy source" that fuels abilities in God of Highschool. It's all just Borrowed Power which in turn doesn't have a source of energy.

How does that work with energy equalization? Where is this power borrowed from? Though regardless still it is energy Absorption (on profile its life Manipulation though. Will be fixed when the big crt comes in a few weeks.)

 

[azontr]

How does that work with energy equalization? Where is this power borrowed from? Though regardless still it is energy Absorption (on profile its life Manipulation though. Will be fixed when the big crt comes in a few weeks.)

The "Borrowed" Power is borrowed from God's, which in turn grant their Abilities to whoever contracts with them, with said God's not following a UES system.

 

[Arkenis]

Edit: so you still have to do it.

alr after Saka vs Ji Ning I'll get some Kamen supporters if they even care

 

[Arkenis]

Sakanashi may be evil and deserve an ass whooping but for the love of all shonen out there don't put him against a chinaman

If saka aint got it in him, I know my boy Rokuro do

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

The "Borrowed" Power is borrowed from God's, which in turn grant their Abilities to whoever contracts with them, with said God's not following a UES system.

Hmm so the life Manipulation would drain their life force then instantly. Not sure how that would impact the statistics reduction though.

How far above baseline are they?

 

[azontr]

Hmm so the life Manipulation would drain their life force then instantly. Not sure how that would impact the statistics reduction though.

How far above baseline are they?

Mori Dan is baseline Low 2-C.

 

[Deceived3596]

Characters from Black Clover need to be removed from 6-A since the current two characters are both High 6-A now.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Altair for a spot in Low 2C

 

[Deceived3596]

Kawahira for a placement in High 5-A

 

[YungManzi]

Kawahira for a placement in High 5-A

I'm not even sure exactly how we currently rate KHR's mind hax layers since we switched to layers.

Like, 4 for decent illusionists and 5 for people like Kawahira... probably.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Mori Dan is baseline Low 2-C.

The Saint Seiya Gods are hundreds of times above baseline

What has he been shown to power null?