BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[EldemadeDityjon]

CFYWO blatantly shown you as consistency for that Zaraki being > Ichibei in base. It is just delusional at this point.

I don't care about other arguments but Ichibe was weaker in CFYOW because of TYBW we don't even got a statement for him regaining complete power when he fought yhwach. I know MFS gonna hate me for saying this whatever.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Now you even arguing Muken Aizen being weaker than god Aizen? Why Kubo even bothered to make Urahara say that, if he thinks god Aizen is stronger. Of course Muken Aizen is the strongest, he also fused with the zanpakuto as final gestuga tensho, which is the pinnacle of evolution, Aizen predicted he would have reached heights higher than final gestuga tensho ichigo after fusing with kyoka suigestu.

Not to mention Muken Aizen tanked 3 or 4 attack from Soul King Yhwach after he absorbed every sternitter + Gerard, literally the strongest characters ever in bleach.

Ekstra, the reason why Yhwach won against Aizen and Ichigo is boths don't know about Yhwach's all abilities.If they only knew that Yhwach's could be resurrecting.
Aizen would not break the Kyoka Suigetsu. In this way, Yhwach could not rewrite the future for resurrection.

 

[Excellence616]

Ekstra, the reason why Yhwach won against Aizen and Ichigo is boths don't know about Yhwach's all abilities.If they only knew that Yhwach's could be resurrecting.
Aizen would not break the Kyoka Suigetsu. In this way, Yhwach could not rewrite the future for resurrection.

okay, without the almighty, Aizen and Ichigo would have won?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

so do you need to have shinigami genes and stuff to be able to use those weapons/swords and stuff seen in the first volume?

when I first read the series I thought ichigo was just a normal human just with the ability to see ghosts and stuff. Yet he was able to wield the weapon rukia gave him. Then I find out later his dad is a soul reaper and his mom is a Quincy. So then I realized why he could do this kind of stuff.

So it makes me wonder if a non-shinigami/Quincy person could wield those weapons and stuff.

assuming they can see ghosts and stuff like him.

Anyone?

 

[Quantu]

okay, without the almighty, Aizen and Ichigo would have won?

I mean, even ignoring the fact Ichigo already one shot him with it, Tensa Zangetsu definitely made Yhwach feel threatened as he felt the need to break it in the future

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

@Deceived3596 yo I have been wondering we have Reastu & magic as separate things could we consider Reastu as some concept?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

so do you need to have shinigami genes and stuff to be able to use those weapons/swords and stuff seen in the first volume?

No. Shinigami aren’t a race so much as an occupation. They are just souls with a lot of power, learn specific methods of combat and receive Asauchis to imprint their souls onto to nurture their Zanpakuto spirits.

when I first read the series I thought ichigo was just a normal human just with the ability to see ghosts and stuff. Yet he was able to wield the weapon rukia gave him. Then I find out later his dad is a soul reaper and his mom is a Quincy. So then I realized why he could do this kind of stuff.

Ichigo’s intro is just what he is aware of. Using Rukia’s sealed Zanpakuto is because he specifically took all of her powers which, as seen with Ginjo, gives you the potential to use whatever they have in their kit (Ichigo just had no clue on any of it). It’s why the guard of Ichigo’s first sword is the same as Rukia’s since it’s her actual sword. Isshin being a Shinigami just meant that Ichigo would have a higher chance of being more spiritually aware, particularly as a descendant of one of the Five Noble Clans.

Being a Quincy on the other hand is genetic.

So it makes me wonder if a non-shinigami/Quincy person could wield those weapons and stuff.

assuming they can see ghosts and stuff like him.

Technically anyone can have a Zanpakuto so long as their soul is strong enough to imprint upon an Asauchi.

Ichigo is a different case even compared to examples like Toshiro (who can speak to his Zan Spirit even before attending the academy and getting an Asauchi) since Zangetsu is a fusion of both Isshin’s Shinigami powers and White who got transferred to Ichigo when he was conceived. It’s why when imprinting his soul upon the Asauchi Oetsu made for him, Ichigo gets two swords in Shikai because he technically has two sources of power, his OG Quincy power he would have had because of his mom in the form of the Old Man and his Shinigami/Hollow power in Zangetsu.

… and then somewhere along the way he got a fragment of the Soul King to make a Fullbring because he needed a third power source for whatever reason.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

No. Shinigami aren’t a race so much as an occupation. They are just souls with a lot of power, learn specific methods of combat and receive Asauchis to imprint their souls onto to nurture their Zanpakuto spirits.
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If souls were born in soul society then they aren’t human?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

If souls were born in soul society then they aren’t human?

Nah, they’re still human. It’s why when Hollows become Arrancar by blurring the lines between Hollow and Shinigami, they are said to “become more human”, take on appearances closer to humans etc.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Nah, they’re still human. It’s why when Hollows become Arrancar by blurring the lines between Hollow and Shinigami, they are said to “become more human”, take on appearances closer to humans etc.

what’s with creating bodies though?

Aka what rukia did

 

[CodeCCLL]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/rimuru-vs-bleach-verse-battle-high-6a-non-smurf.149502/#post-5491491

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Anyone want to comment on this match?
It's good to have a look from the beginning.

 

[Hellscream]

Why does yhwach / ichigo not have passive EE through Soul crush on their profiles or atleast have it on the soul physiology page?
It's literally an inherent ability of soul crush due to being overwhelmingly stronger than the opponent

 

[Reio35]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/existence-eraser-resistance-for-all-arrancars-vizards-ect.149656/

 

[Reio35]

Why does yhwach / ichigo not have passive EE through Soul crush on their profiles or atleast have it on the soul physiology page?
It's literally an inherent ability of soul crush due to being overwhelmingly stronger than the opponent

Yeah i can probably get them passive EE. If not atomic deconstruction for sure

 

[skippy]

Some Klub outside news:
Kubo is working kamikake Jushiro stuff
He is making a character design that wont appear until cour 3/4
He is checking the anime coloration for Äs Nödt Vollständig.
They are dubbing the Anime right now.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Some Klub outside news:
Kubo is working kamikake Jushiro stuff
He is making a character design that wont appear until cour 3/4
He is checking the anime coloration for Äs Nödt Vollständig.
They are dubbing the Anime right now.

What’s kubo like in real life regarding personality(

 

[Excellence616]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/question-about-bleachs-soul-hax-layers.149617/#post-5498174

 

[KingogKings777]

Does the wiki still considered Mayuri was in a spaceship during MoN?

 

[Reio35]

Does the wiki still considered Mayuri was in a spaceship during MoN?

pretty sure he uses spirit bugs or something like that.

 

[Reio35]

In cfyow it says soul reapers cant be harm by physical attacks on their spirit bodies.

It also says humans have no weapons that killing hollows.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Does the wiki still considered Mayuri was in a spaceship during MoN?

Never have AKM had that misconception but I cleared that up for him rq

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

More like let's bring back 6-B God Tiers.

God I ******* wish we could, I'd shoot 2018 IMade if I could

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Cringe

 

[foxhunter]

I feel like grandfisher is slept on as an antagonist, like I know there’s better bleach antagonist but I think the impact of and story around grandfisher is dope

 

[Myxenete]

Why is Byakuya Massively hypersonic+ when he fought both Lilttoto and Robert who are both sub-relativistic?

 

[Blallooo]

Why is Byakuya Massively hypersonic+ when he fought both Lilttoto and Robert who are both sub-relativistic?

For the same reason Lille is the only elite listed as sub rel+ by upscaling from Liltotto, speed profiles are mostly outdated

 

[Deceived3596]

New thread.

 

[Creed100]

@Arc7Kuroi Did you find the scans where it shows that increasing reatsu increases the shinigami's physical stats

 

[skippy]

@Arc7Kuroi Did you find the scans where it shows that increasing reatsu increases the shinigami's physical stats

This?

 

[Creed100]

This?

Yes, thank you. But are there others besides this one in the work? novel?databook?

 

[AppleLord]

Quincy Ichigo (New Version) with Vollstandig mode Ichigo!!

 

[Excellence616]

Is there not a game profile for bleach characters?

 

[skippy]

Im thinking whether Daemon Reflection ability would be triggered by Askin if he lowered the oxygen in an area for example?
And if Guenael would bypass Daemons ability also?

 

[Hellscream]

Im thinking whether Daemon Reflection ability would be triggered by Askin if he lowered the oxygen in an area for example?
And if Guenael would bypass Daemons ability also?

If askin gets hit by an attack of daemon, he's invulnerable to any ability that he uses with his chakra, or whatever power is his source

 

[Naeblis495]

Im thinking whether Daemon Reflection ability would be triggered by Askin if he lowered the oxygen in an area for example?
And if Guenael would bypass Daemons ability also?

Askin would most likely trigger the intent part of daemon ability.

Same for Lee i would assume , but it can't hit him when he is in stage 3 of his ability.

 

[KingogKings777]

Im thinking whether Daemon Reflection ability would be triggered by Askin if he lowered the oxygen in an area for example?
And if Guenael would bypass Daemons ability also?

If Daemon doesn't have someone to touch he should be good to die I guess.

 

[Naeblis495]

oh, i forgot about his need to be in contact with another for his power to work. Never mind then.

 

[Hellscream]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-quincy-battles-a-demigod-kratos-vs-yhwach.149879/page-2

 

[Tyri456]

I miss universal bleach :’(

 

[Hellscream]

I miss universal bleach :’(

Hax > AP