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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Reio35 said:
So only when using her p ability can she amp her ap beyond them

V2 ikomodomei got hurt by Candice spamming lightning bolts and arrows.

Lies she hurt hikone even while he was using blute and hierro

Bro really think he proved something đź’€
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No she can’t, liltotto literally defeated Meninas 1vs1 when she was controlled by PePe she isn’t even the strongest Femritter, and no, candice didn’t damage V2 Ikomikidomoe remotely, best could do is scratching it and doesn’t change my premise with the barragan scaling. I don’t think you get how much difference there is between Barragan and TYBWA zaraki, when already SAFWY zaraki could no diff. him.

You don’t know what you are talking about.
 
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Meninas broke her fingers and hand striking someone that CFYOW Kenpachi could one-shot.

Best you could absolutely scale her to is probably a TYBW Base or Shikai Kenpachi because "analyzed" probably refers to the daten which wouldn't have anything on Bankai Kenpachi nor CFYOW Kenpachi. At best it would be up to TYBW Shikai Kenpachi.

I think you can safely scale her to TYBW Base and at most TYBW Shikai.
 
Tyri456 said:
Quincy girls scared of Resurecion luppi, Quincy girls purposely avoiding the Cero clashing between Grimmjow and Luppi thinking it is too impressive
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yeah while in base withouts vollstandig and sklaverei. Candice tanked ichigo's getsuga jujishou or is that weaker than luppi and grimmjow' cero ?
Tyri456 said:
Quincy girls unable to do anything to Ikomikidomoe later compared to barragan.
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we all know that's a bogus statement, peak Narita nonsense power levels
 
1st off i wouldnt call losing an arm as tanking the Attack.
2nd Ichigo wasnt even trying to kill the Bambies, he had many opportunities to do so if he wanted to.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Meninas > Zaraki > Gremmy > Meninas, yeah makes sense
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zaraki didnt fight gremmy bare handed, nobody is saying she's stronger than shikai kenpachi and gremmy just that she has higher brute strenght than him. like it means maybe she would beat him in a fist fight, maybe
 
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skippy said:
1st off i wouldnt call losing an arm as tanking the Attack.
2nd Ichigo wasnt even trying to kill the Bambies, he had many opportunities to do so if he wanted to.
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1. well then let's say "tanked most of it" and after getting nuked like that I think it's impressive
2. He used a named attack, stronger than the signature move he uses since always. If he tells her to dodge is exactly because he unleashed a lot of power
 
Blallooo said:
1. well then let's say "tanked most of it" and after getting nuked like that I think it's impressive
2. He used a named attack, stronger than the signature move he uses since always. If he tells her to dodge is exactly because he unleashed a lot of power
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She also Blocked the attack using her power snd still lost an arm so i wouldnt say she tanked it.
Sure but his intent was still not to kill them.
 
Blallooo said:
yeah while in base withouts vollstandig and sklaverei. Candice tanked ichigo's getsuga jujishou or is that weaker than luppi and grimmjow' cero ?
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So a casual, no effort Getsuga Jujisho basically eviscerating every part of Candice it collided with is Candice surviving Ichigo? Genius.
Blallooo said:
we all know that's a bogus statement, peak Narita nonsense power levels
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The story doesn't make sense or not make sense, it's up to the person making the interpretation. It sounds to me like you couldn't make a consistent interpretation of the events, i.e. a skill issue
 
skippy said:
She also Blocked the attack using her power snd still lost an arm so i wouldnt say she tanked it.
Sure but his intent was still not to kill them.
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Why would he tell her to dodge if he didn't use enough power to kill her in the first place ?
 
Given the difference in power, Ichigo shouldn't even have used any kind of Getsuga. I think with literally one finger he could easily kill them all. Candice's first attack and that first getsuga canceling each other out is pretty weird.

At least Ichigo wasn't hurt.

Contrary to what happened between him and Uryū shortly afterwards.

Who cares about scale on Candice or Meninas, I want upgrades on Chad.
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
So a casual, no effort Getsuga Jujisho basically eviscerating every part of Candice it collided with is Candice surviving Ichigo? Genius.
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Why casual ? There's ranked getsuga as well ? Why using getsuga jujishou instead of doing nothing and palming the attack like against Ginjou ? During the fight ichigo's effort through the fight increase constantly

1. Manhandles effortlessly all base femritters jumping him

2. Used both zangetsu to deflect all their heilig pfeils

2. Used a getsuga to neutralise vollstandig Candice javelin

3. The other three use vollstandig + sklaverei and actually put a fight and brawl with him for a while

4. Candice use sklaverei to boost her vollstandig and unleashes her strongest attack forcing him to use getsuga jujishou.
And please don't imply she was only hit at the arm because with the anime showing her pretty visibly engulfed by that big ass cross and not dodging is dishonest. Like yeah obviously he was holding back but the true shikai ichigo who's not holding back is also the one fighting SK Yhwach so just forcing him to use a named attack ans surviving It is impressive
Guacamolefletcher said:
The story doesn't make sense or not make sense, it's up to the person making the interpretation. It sounds to me like you couldn't make a consistent interpretation of the events, i.e. a skill issue
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You think Barragan pre arrancar (what supposedly ikomikidomoe is referring to) is stronger than anybody weaker than Ikomikidomoe when the stronget Starrk needed his full power to knock out with no critical damage love and Rose ?
 
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Guacamolefletcher said:
So we're scaling Ichigo to Ebern now? It's just something he does, man. Sometimes Ichigo goes for them style points.
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Why not ? He still made him use Bankai after all. It's not rare for Kubo to write competent characters and writing them off in the span of a chapter. Nianzol is probably the best example
 
Reio35 said:
Ichigo lowered himself from 5D to 3D until sk yhwach
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shut-up.gif
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
She wears a clown woman pfp, it fits
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Candice forced a getsuga jujisho from Ichigo because a regular Getsuga wouldnt be enough to counter her. Meaning ichigo pouring all his might into a regular getsuga, candice is superior to that. Which is why ichigo used a jujisho. The only thing you have on gremmy is people fear him, but its hax. And dont say its an ap thing bc y'all were the ppl implying he only lost to Kenpachi because he fought him a certain way instead of erasing him from spot
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Candice forced a getsuga jujisho from Ichigo because a regular Getsuga wouldnt be enough to counter her. Meaning ichigo pouring all his might into a regular getsuga, candice is superior to that. Which is why ichigo used a jujisho.
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True Shikai Ichigo>Candice because she made Ichigo use Getsuga Jujisho>Weakened Soul King
 
Don't get why this downplaying, we're comparing Candice, someone who's tybw espada level in base while nerfed, very strongest attack to a single one from ichigo who probably can spam It whenever he wants so it's not farfetched to say that electrocution is at least that strong
As I said if he didn't consider it a threat why would he use it in the first place ?
 
Blallooo said:
Don't get why this downplaying, we're comparing Candice, someone who's tybw espada level in base while nerfed, very strongest attack to a single one from ichigo who probably can spam It whenever he wants so it's not farfetched to say that electrocution is at least that strong
As I said if he didn't consider it a threat why would he use it in the first place ?
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She also canceled a casual getsuga with a casual attack of her own
 
Well my point is defintely not to scale Candice to full power TS ichigo or anywhere remotely close anyway but my femritters agenda needs me to say that since he's basically the only opponent she fought at full power she stille deserves more credit than some give her
 
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