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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
Well, Kubo states that Shunsui didn’t get much stronger from the Arrancar arc to the TYBW arc. So the scaling he gets in the TYBW (speed scaling primarily) should apply to his Arrancar arc self. And he has Bankai which is powerful enough to harm Lille with raw spiritual pressure. But I do think if you restrict it to Shikai Shunsui vs Gin and do speed equal it’s a good debate. Otherwise Shunsui should dominate
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Did kubo state that in club outside?
Can I get that scan?
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
As much as I love glazing current Uryu, we can say that a serious TS Ichigo would've beaten him. Although I'd be interested in how he'd do against no Almighty Post-Reawakening Yhwach seeing as Ichigo beat his ass.
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Unless Base Yhwach is strong enough to one-shot VSS Uryu he won't be able to defeat him due to Antithesis. Which he is not but I think both VSS Uryu and Base Yhwach are relative to each one another in terms of raw power.
 
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
Ichigo Unable to Cut Down Uryū

During the battle with Yhwach, Uryū suddenly appears before Ichigo and the others. Standing in their way as an enemy, Uryū continues to attack without holding back. Ichigo, desperate to understand Uryū's true intentions, shouts, "Why are you there?!" However, unable to be ruthless, Ichigo can only defend himself against Uryū's attacks.

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Nice
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Santa Ichibe with the white beard
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I haven't got the scans (and I forgot to note the issues...) but I went through and added all the abilities to a sandbox here

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Sandbox 7

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Aside from some potency things, some hax layers and a couple resistances, most of the key stuff is already on the PC and Rebirth profiles.
 
It gives in to the fan theories saying “Uryu wants not holding back” and “Ichigo was holding back” nonessential “direct” statements. As in word for word. Sounds sketchy.
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
Ichigo Unable to Cut Down Uryū

During the battle with Yhwach, Uryū suddenly appears before Ichigo and the others. Standing in their way as an enemy, Uryū continues to attack without holding back. Ichigo, desperate to understand Uryū's true intentions, shouts, "Why are you there?!" However, unable to be ruthless, Ichigo can only defend himself against Uryū's attacks.

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Based on the leaks it seems that base Renji vs Gerard is still a thing, BUT because of Feder Zwinger, this doesn't hurt scaling because we know that Renji is currently nerfed. Somehow they made the rug scene even worse because Askin ain't even near Ichigo like the manga, but I can't complain because at least we know he had to try alternative means and not directly use the Deathdealing on him. my glorious chocolate queen Yoruichi steps up to the plate, but the Thunder God transformation isn't coming until cour 4. If Uryu vs Jugram is going to be the final episode of the cour, I hope we see a shit ton more than what the manga gave, possibly an Ichigo vs Uryu rematch like AppleLord suggests, but we'll see when the episode 40 leaks likely come out some time later today.
 
Arc7Kuroi

Thread 'Renji Dogwalks the Primera Espada'

Intro
So, I missed a little sumn sumn for Renji in cour 1 that implies his Post-TS self (pre RG training) is around Byakuya level.

Meat and Taters
Here is my proposal for the upgrades to his Post-Timeskip key.

Tier: High 6-A, higher with Bankai and Shakkaho

AP: Multi-Continent level (Renji has done extensive training over the 2 years<ref>Bleach Chapter 465</ref>, and due to the mechanics of reiryoku and reiatsu, his Attack Potency should be comparable to his Durability; this is consistent with the notion that Byakuya brought Renji along to fight the...
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Arc7Kuroi said:
Arc7Kuroi

Thread 'Renji Dogwalks the Primera Espada'

Intro
So, I missed a little sumn sumn for Renji in cour 1 that implies his Post-TS self (pre RG training) is around Byakuya level.

Meat and Taters
Here is my proposal for the upgrades to his Post-Timeskip key.

Tier: High 6-A, higher with Bankai and Shakkaho

AP: Multi-Continent level (Renji has done extensive training over the 2 years<ref>Bleach Chapter 465</ref>, and due to the mechanics of reiryoku and reiatsu, his Attack Potency should be comparable to his Durability; this is consistent with the notion that Byakuya brought Renji along to fight the...
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Title alone makes me salty so Imma disagree 😡
 
I have 2 questions:

Will Askin have some possible relative scaling to TS Ichigo from his offscreen fight? We obviously know Ichigo was holding back, but will he get a possibly on his speed being relative to Ichigo like how Gin was to masked Ichigo? Or is there too little information to do any scaling to him.

And speaking of Renji, will Renji specifically be 2-C with Zagaizekko/True Power or could he be 2-C in Bankai from harming Uryu?
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
I have 2 questions:

Will Askin have some possible relative scaling to TS Ichigo from his offscreen fight? We obviously know Ichigo was holding back, but will he get a possibly on his speed being relative to Ichigo like how Gin was to masked Ichigo? Or is there too little information to do any scaling to him.

And speaking of Renji, will Renji specifically be 2-C with Zagaizekko/True Power or could he be 2-C in Bankai from harming Uryu?
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I think speed is possible otherwise it potentially could have led to a blitz but off screen fights are problematic. Can't comment on the second question.
 
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