It's pretty clear that Ichigo only ever got serious against SK Yhwach, which is demonstrated from his Reiatsu and Yhwach's own comment
Ichigo was furious against Uryu tho, I cant see why he wouldn’t be serious
I already pointed out why that is wrong, Ichigo explicitly only went all out against SK Yhwach, furthermore, making Uryu = TS Ichigo changes the entire TYBW scaling because of Jugram who could match Uryu, it's not as simple as just changing Uryu
Might be a mistake or sth like that, I wasn't here in the last speed crts
Is there a scan for this?
iirc Kenpachi didn’t actually physically defeat Gremmy, Gremmy just killed himself with his own power
All he did was shoot arrows which never landed. Plus this TS ichigo was holding back till his fight with Yhwach so it's hard to scale him
Problem with true shikai Ichigo is that he easily suppress his power how much he likes, he can easily go from 0 to 100, there is an enormous difference between the Ichigo that release his reiastu when he face 1vs1 Yhwach and the Ichigo playing with the sternitters saying he didn’t want to kill them.
Bro that was Royd, no way Yhwach fought Kenpachi and then switch with a fake one, dang that would be the most historical disrespect in whole bleach
Yes
If I'm not mistaken this is quoted in cyfow, but I don't remember the volume and page
There is no evidence, it is open to everyone's interpretation. The only information said was that Royd didn't fight Zaraki
Scan
It was the Arc that brought the information, so the scan must be with him.
That was lille's arrow not uryu
Occams razor this argument relies on way too many assumptions.
From Bleach The Dagger (a mini info pamphlet of sorts akin to Memories of the Soul):
Bottom Right: "The strong Zaraki Kenpachi was specified to be a Special War Potential, the end result was that he was defeated by Yhwach”
Reread my message, I tell you what it’s from in my message
I asked where do you get the translation from? I know it is from a mini info pamphlet of sorts akin to Memories of the Soul.Reread my message, I tell you what it’s from in my message
That doesn't inherently prove that it was Yhwach himself that slapped up Kenpachi during that encounter.
I prefer to go with an omniscient narrator claiming Yhwach defeated Kenpachi, rather than making an assumption. Someone already pointed out Yhwach could’ve swapped after defeating Kenpachi, and it fits fine.That doesn't inherently prove that it was Yhwach himself that slapped up Kenpachi during that encounter.
"He was defeated by Yhwach" isn't a contradictory statement against the assertion that Royd Loyd was the one who slapped Kenpachi up instead of Yhwach himself since Royd Loyd was physically disguise as Yhwach at that specific point of time, which would be perfectly in line with the statement "He was defeated by Yhwach" because he was defeated by "Yhwach", it was just Royd in disguise as Yhwach.
It also takes more assumptions to claim that for some reason the real Yhwach came out of nowhere to slap Kenpachi up, than proceeds to dip compared to the assertion that Royd Loyd, while disguise as Yhwach slapped up Kenpachi on his way to fight Yamamoto.
It would also contradict the fact Yhwach was specifically talking to Aizen at that point of time while Royd was doing his stuff, you'd have to assert that Yhwach stopped talking to Aizen just to do this action, than teleport back to Aizen to continue the conversation they were having previously. It just doesn't make logical sense in comparison to the claim that it was Royd Loyd who dicked on Kenpachi.
Arc7Female proving once again why she's a Reio victim smdh.
It doesn't inherently prove your claim Arc, that's just object reality, your cope doesn't counter what i said
Reio35 Harem Member acting brazy rn.Deceived continuing his FKT Kisuke < Ulq level takes
Occam’s razor GG. An omniscient narrator, like the one providing the statement, wouldn’t be limited by the in character knowledge on Royd Loyd. Considering said omniscient narrator claims Yhwach defeated Kenpachi, Occam’s Razor sides with my interpretation. Furthermore, my interpretation isn’t contradicted by any information inherently.It doesn't inherently prove your claim Arc, that's just object reality, your cope doesn't counter what i said
Concession Accepted via burden of rejoinder GG
Yeah the anime could show a flashback of when Yhwach swapped out with Royd when he brings it up to Yama
I’m not following this but i fail to see how this is a rebuttal to Deceived’s point.
The statement being from an omniscient narrator doesn't negate the assumptions that can be made about the statement, since the statement isn't saying this was objectively Yhwach himself that was the one who destroyed Kenpachi, it just states that it was Yhwach who defeated Kenpachi, which has multiple interpretations. And i believe my interpretation is the most consistent one logically and narratively.
3* you’re included
