BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[skippy]

Is there any indication that the Weakened Soul King emits Reiatsu

But also there is no other way to hold the realms in place, they user Yhwach bcs he still had reiatsu in his corpse but if he didnt they would have used Ichigo and given him the name if Reio

 

[YukaSama4]

Is there any indication that the Weakened Soul King emits Reiatsu

Iirc we do knot always love you stated that Yhwach still had enough Reiatsu to hold the worlds even after death, is that what you mean?

 

[Tyri456]

the number zero of Cien was given to him by Aizen, and we know Aizen dominates Espada by force, not to mention Cien call him Lord.

amazing how strong Aizen and Yamamoto were always since the beginning, additionally I noticed that Aizen say that without wonderweiss Yamamoto would PROBABLY, key word probably win in 1vs1, this nonetheless mean Aizen can someone put a fight against him if both being serious.

 

[skippy]

Could anybody tell me which characters are Top Tiers in Naruto and One Piece.
God tiers are like Naruto,Sasuke,Kaguya,Isshiki…

 

[Godernet]

Kaguya universal yet she's going around eating planets. Make it make sense

Tbf Galactus is a planet eater and he ranges from like 3C to 1A

 

[ImmortalDread]

Could anybody tell me which characters are Top Tiers in Naruto and One Piece.
God tiers are like Naruto,Sasuke,Kaguya,Isshiki…

Luffy >

 

[Godernet]

Could anybody tell me which characters are Top Tiers in Naruto and One Piece.
God tiers are like Naruto,Sasuke,Kaguya,Isshiki

Naruto top tiers I think are like Hashirama, Madara pre ten tails, Juubito, KCM Minato, pre six paths Nard and Sauce and pretty much anyone that can scale to the nine tails or the weakened ten tails Óbito made.

One Piece Top Tiers are just people that can harm the Yonko or Admirals but not actually win. So Marco, Zoro, King, Yamato, Ace, probably Sabo, maybe the Scabbard w/ Ryou? You might even be able to consider the current Garp and Rayleigh top tier.

 

[YukaSama4]

the number zero of Cien was given to him by Aizen, and we know Aizen dominates Espada by force, not to mention Cien call him Lord.

amazing how strong Aizen and Yamamoto were always since the beginning, additionally I noticed that Aizen say that without wonderweiss Yamamoto would PROBABLY, key word probably win in 1vs1, this nonetheless mean Aizen can someone put a fight against him if both being serious.

Tbf I hate Yama, and Aizen is one of my favourite characters in the series but I think Yama would've destroyed Aizen in 1vs1 easily.

I think it would've been out of character for Aizen to say explicitly that Yama would stomp on him lol that's why he said "you will probably win".
Thats just my opinion tho

 

[YukaSama4]

Oh btw I meant in a 1vs1 fight like only using the swords and other soul reapers skills (kido, hakoda..itc)

If Aizen is using KS, Yama will have to destroy the whole area like how he planned to during fkt

 

[Reio35]

Yamamoto had to prep an attack just to beat
Aizen. That alone proves he's not above him. In h2h combat I think aizen is slapping yama

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

The way I see it is this:
Shikai Yama >= base Aizen >~ base Yama
Considering Aizen developed countermeasures for Yama’s Shikai it should bare minimum have some kind of threat towards Aizen

 

[ImmortalDread]

Tbf I hate Yama, and Aizen is one of my favourite characters in the series but I think Yama would've destroyed Aizen in 1vs1 easily.

I think it would've been out of character for Aizen to say explicitly that Yama would stomp on him lol that's why he said "you will probably win".
Thats just my opinion tho

naw, Aizen > Yama

 

[Reio35]

Naruto low end is MC+ mid scale is moon to planet High end solar.

Bleach low end is large planet mid scale low multiversal high end large boundless

 

[ImmortalDread]

Naruto low end is MC+ mid scale is moon to planet High end solar.

Bleach low end is large planet mid scale low multiversal high end large boundless

"large boundless"

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Naruto low end is MC+ mid scale is moon to planet High end solar.

Bleach low end is large planet mid scale low multiversal high end large boundless

You almost had sumn good going until you said “large boundless”

Highest reasonable scale you can get for bleach is 5D using the Aizen statements from Deicide, anything else is massive over interpretations of statements

 

[Reio35]

You almost had sumn good going until you said “large boundless”

Highest reasonable scale you can get for bleach is 5D using the Aizen statements from Deicide, anything else is massive over interpretations of statements

Large boundless was joke lol.

And yeah pre retcond dangai ichigo is 5D. The soul palace also could be a higher dimensional realm. Ichibei calls it a higher world in cfyow

 

[Arcker123]

The soul palace also could be a higher dimensional realm. Ichibei calls it a higher world in cfyow

 

[YukaSama4]

 

[Reio35]

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[Arcker123]

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[Arc7Kuroi]

Large boundless was joke lol.

And yeah pre retcond dangai ichigo is 5D. The soul palace also could be a higher dimensional realm. Ichibei calls it a higher world in cfyow

Dangai wasn’t retconned…

 

[Tyri456]

Oh btw I meant in a 1vs1 fight like only using the swords and other soul reapers skills (kido, hakoda..itc)

If Aizen is using KS, Yama will have to destroy the whole area like how he planned to during fkt

don’t underestimate Aizen, Aizen one shotting and blitzing shunsui + captains + top 3 espada + vizards is so an underrated feat imo. Like one shotting in short time people of the caliber of starrk, baraggan or shunsui without putting effort at all is huge.

No one in the series could one shots characters of that tier so easily even in the future, neither Lille barro, neither Tokinada neither Yama, we only know Yama is stronger than Aizen because it is stated to be the strongest, which I agree with him to be the strongest but Aizen is up there in term of sheer strength/reiastu. Yamamoto also needed to go shikai against shunsui + ukitake, so he is not beating Aizen easy at all.

 

[Shadyboi0]

Large boundless got to be Don Kanoji tier

 

[ImmortalDread]

don’t underestimate Aizen, Aizen one shotting and blitzing shunsui + captains + top 3 espada + vizards is so an underrated feat imo. Like one shotting in short time people of the caliber of starrk, baraggan or shunsui without putting effort at all is huge.

No one in the series could one shots characters of that tier so easily even in the future, neither Lille barro, neither Tokinada neither Yama, we only know Yama is stronger than Aizen because it is stated to be the strongest, which I agree with him to be the strongest but Aizen is up there in term of sheer strength/reiastu. Yamamoto also needed to go shikai against shunsui + ukitake, so he is not beating Aizen easy at all.

Yama base vs Aizen base seems an interesting match without prep time

 

[AnimesFreak2]

This man said Large Boundless....what does that even mean-

 

[Reio35]

don’t underestimate Aizen, Aizen one shotting and blitzing shunsui + captains + top 3 espada + vizards is so an underrated feat imo. Like one shotting in short time people of the caliber of starrk, baraggan or shunsui without putting effort at all is huge.

No one in the series could one shots characters of that tier so easily even in the future, neither Lille barro, neither Tokinada neither Yama, we only know Yama is stronger than Aizen because it is stated to be the strongest, which I agree with him to be the strongest but Aizen is up there in term of sheer strength/reiastu. Yamamoto also needed to go shikai against shunsui + ukitake, so he is not beating Aizen easy at all.

Yama's physicals are up their for sure he punched a hole in wonderize who can one shot captains like ukikitake,even broke toshiros ice mountain which could hold down halibel. Also fought royd who no diffed kenpachi

 

[ImmortalDread]

Yama's physicals are up their for sure he punched a hole in wonderize who can one shot captains like ukikitake,even broke toshiros ice mountain which could hold down halibel. Also fought royd who no diffed kenpachi

Last one was not base as I remember?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yama's physicals are up their for sure he punched a hole in wonderize who can one shot captains like ukikitake,even broke toshiros ice mountain which could hold down halibel. Also fought royd who no diffed kenpachi

Royd never fought Kenpachi. Kubo confirmed that Yhwach took down Kenny

 

[Purgy]

Royd never fought Kenpachi. Kubo confirmed that Yhwach took down Kenny

When?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

When?

Remind me tomorrow to drop the scan

 

[Purgy]

Remind me tomorrow to drop the scan

If you're referring to the 13 Blades fights poll, I don't think that's accurate

 

[Reio35]

Royd never fought Kenpachi. Kubo confirmed that Yhwach took down Kenny

Bro ant no way you think that. Royd was literally holding this man by the neck

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Bro ant no way you think that. Road was literally holding this man by the neck

Road

Please try and read what I type in the future, ofc I think what Kubo confirms is correct

 

[ImmortalDread]

Yhwach fought Kenpachi? Where is that stated?

 

[Purgy]

Yhwach fought Kenpachi? Where is that stated?

One of the fight poll results in 13 Blades is "Kenpachi vs Yhwach", which people use to say Yhwach is the one that bodied Kenpachi and not Royd Lloyd, however there are multiple issues with this.

Arc might be referring to something else though

 

[ImmortalDread]

One of the fight poll results in 13 Blades is "Kenpachi vs Yhwach", which people use to say Yhwach is the one that bodied Kenpachi and not Royd Lloyd, however there are multiple issues with this.

Arc might be referring to something else though

I think it is more to give a shocking to viewers or most likely a hope for an insane fight in my opinion.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Is there a reason why we don’t scale Uryu to True Shikai Ichigo? He was able to clash with him and fight on par with him

 

[Purgy]

Is there a reason why we don’t scale Uryu to True Shikai Ichigo? He was able to clash with him and fight on par with him

It's pretty clear that Ichigo only ever got serious against SK Yhwach, which is demonstrated from his Reiatsu and Yhwach's own comment

There's also a plethora of inconsistencies that would arise from Uryu and therefore Jugram scaling to True Shikai Ichigo since it would make both immeasurably superior to base Yhwach

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

It's pretty clear that Ichigo only ever got serious against SK Yhwach, which is demonstrated from his Reiatsu and Yhwach's own comment

Ichigo was furious against Uryu tho, I cant see why he wouldn’t be serious

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Plus if base Yhwach ended up scaling to High 4-C, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal, no? Nobody scales to base Yhwach besides Ichibe