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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
Correct, although if you're strong enough you can simply cut through it, as Cien informs us that Kenpachi could cut through Respira.

Neither Los Lobos nor Respira would even scale to Barragan or Starrk's normal stats anyways. Barragan wears a special fit or Respira will kill him, and he does end up dying to Respira. Starrk's Los Lobos can one shot Masked Love and Rose who could previously fight Starrk in his Res.
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So SE Ulquiorra could still hypothetically scale above Starrk & Barragan normally.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
SE is verbatim stated below Yammy’s maximal Res, like it’s not debatable 💀 not only is he repeatedly stated to be the strongest, but Cien (having analyzed every fight in Hueco Mundo) states that the only power in HM that surpasses Yammy’s maximal Res is his own and Aizen’s. Then it’s heavily implied that Respira and Los Lobos > anything Ulq can do
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He was thinking of possible powers she would use. Then he remembered ulq and Ichigo's powers and thinks those are the most likely she would use
Arc7Kuroi said:
“But Cien said that copying Ulq’s SE would be a good idea to fight him”, no he didn’t, he posed a question to Roka, “you planned on copying Ulq or Ichigo’s transformations didn’t you”. AND THEN he says “that’s certainly your best bet, BECAUSE if you copied ICHIGO’s BERSERK TRANSFORMATION it’d be troublesome to kill you”. Notice how Cien specifically draws attention to FH Ichigo’s power, and only states that that power would be troublesome, never anything for SE Ulq.
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Why bring up ulquiorras transformation in the first place?The fact he consider it a likelihood means it's above the others he mentioned. VL only being mentioned as a threat is entirely unrelated to ulquiorra also being likely form she would use
Arc7Kuroi said:
This is further consistent because a slightly weaker Cien was stated to be on the same level as FH Ichigo by Uryu. And we know FH Ichigo can no diff SE Ulq, because we see it. The Ulq wank has got to go bruh, he’s super strong, but not the strongest.
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Didn't no diff ulqs ceros were stopping his.
 
Hard to say what Ichigo's Bankai is, Yhwach's line about luck could actually be linked to Fate or was it just a way for the sword not to be broken directly at first.
 
Jokes aside

I think True Bankai Ichigo's ability is legit being able to literally destroy fate itself

As not only would that completely counter Yhwach's Almighty but it also connects to Chapter 0 of the Manga when Ichigo talked about when he wanted a blade that could shatter fate
 
AnimesFreak2 said:
Jokes aside

I think True Bankai Ichigo's ability is legit being able to literally destroy fate itself

As not only would that completely counter Yhwach's Almighty but it also connects to Chapter 0 of the Manga when Ichigo talked about when he wanted a blade that could shatter fate
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Ya, as I said, my doubts were not wrong. It seems to be fate manipulation, lol. Ya + his blade is literally his counter.
 
Reio35 said:
He was thinking of possible powers she would use. Then he remembered ulq and Ichigo's powers and thinks those are the most likely she would use

Why bring up ulquiorras transformation in the first place?The fact he consider it a likelihood means it's above the others he mentioned. VL only being mentioned as a threat is entirely unrelated to ulquiorra also being likely form she would use

Didn't no diff ulqs ceros were stopping his.
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Why did he mention Ulq and Ichigo? Because he was referencing that fight. Cien didn’t say anything about SE Ulq being a threat, he said FH Ichigo would be a challenge. Ichigo quashed Ulq’s Cero, google the definition of quash of you think Ulq was stopping Ichigo’s Cero.
 
I mean yea base Aizen scales to above the captains who scale to espadas, espadas are buildings level as we've clearly seen during fkt.
Yama ×3 kamakura Town destruction level ~ Island level > Base Aizen.

Base Ulq already at those captains levels + his res is ×10 + his SE is ×100 his base + his gran rey cero is ×1000 his base and his Lanza is ×10000 his base.
 
Arcker123 said:
He didn’t actually say this right?
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Iirc he said that base Ulq is on par with Kisuke and Yoruichi, his SE is ×1000 his base or ×100 sth like that, he also uses the hell movie and scales SE Ulq to VL Ichigo when he destroyed the chains and said at the end of the movie that he can destroy the world.

Idk if he literally said Ulq can beat Aizen, but when it comes to Ulq he is n.1 ulq wanker in the social media lol
 
YukaSama4 said:
Iirc he said that base Ulq is on par with Kisuke and Yoruichi, his SE is ×1000 his base or ×100 sth like that, he also uses the hell movie and scales SE Ulq to VL Ichigo when he destroyed the chains and said at the end of the movie that he can destroy the world.

Idk if he literally said Ulq can beat Aizen, but when it comes to Ulq he is n.1 ulq wanker in the social media lol
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Ulq > Kisuke ~ Aizen
💀
 
Dread said:
Anyone here? Does not he scale also to Yama (not bankai one)
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Royd Loyd’s AP justifications need to change. Kubo confirmed it was the real Yhwach who put down Kenpachi, and Royd Loyd with Blut was bleeding after getting slashed by Shikai Yama, so he should scale relative only with Blut.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Royd Loyd’s AP justifications need to change. Kubo confirmed it was the real Yhwach who put down Kenpachi, and Royd Loyd with Blut was bleeding after getting slashed by Shikai Yama, so he should scale relative only with Blut.
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Ya agreed. I found it weird he only scales to kenpachi. He forced Yama to use his bankai
 
Idk why but when it comes to Bleach powerscalling on YouTube, the most famous ones are a meme, basically one says that Chad and Renji can defeat Hogyoku Aizen and the other one scales Ulq to VL from the hell movie.

Arc, why dont u make a channel for Bleach powerscalling?
 
YukaSama4 said:
Idk why but when it comes to Bleach powerscalling on YouTube, the most famous ones are a meme, basically one says that Chad and Renji can defeat Hogyoku Aizen and the other one scales Ulq to VL from the hell movie.

Arc, why dont u make a channel for Bleach powerscalling?
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I’ve unironically considered it
 
If I ever made a power scaling channel my first Bleach scaling video would be on why Kisuke is a smart ass OP Aizen level fighter and people need to stop underestimating him
 
YukaSama4 said:
Idk why but when it comes to Bleach powerscalling on YouTube, the most famous ones are a meme, basically one says that Chad and Renji can defeat Hogyoku Aizen and the other one scales Ulq to VL from the hell movie.

Arc, why dont u make a channel for Bleach powerscalling?
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Dang, but creating YT channel is really stressful.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Why did he mention Ulq and Ichigo? Because he was referencing that fight. Cien didn’t say anything about SE Ulq being a threat, he said FH Ichigo would be a challenge. Ichigo quashed Ulq’s Cero, google the definition of quash of you think Ulq was stopping Ichigo’s Cero.
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He mentioned ulquiorra's transformation power level not just the fight. Also quash means cancel. The ceros quashed each other because they were equal in power. Not to mention ulquiorra was in the middle of the blast and received 0 damage

Dishonesty is one hell of a drug
 
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