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If the top Espada still leave with Aizen, Gin and Tosen for Karakura Town then they'd clear Hueco Mundo and save Orihime with relative ease imo, even if Kenpachi and the other Captains aren't there.Here's a fun scenario for people to brainstorm over; let's say that Ichigo asked the Vizards to help him invade Hueco Mundo and save Orihime, and they went with him, Chad and Uryu. Do you think they would have made a huge difference entering the battle from the beginning?
Absolutely, Love and Rose were able to contest Res Starrk and only got KOd after Starrk used Los Lobos. I mean the Vizards seem to be consistently top 3 Espada level. However, while it would probably make it easier for Ichigo in HM, if Aizen and the Espada were able to stall enough for Kenpachi, Byakuya, Mayuri, and Unohana to enter HM, he may trap them all there. Then at that point the Espada might dominate in FKT. Although people like Yama and Bankai Shunsui could still violate the FKT Espada. I feel like a lot of battles would change, maybe some more captain deaths, but the end result of leading towards Deicide would probably still occur tbh.Here's a fun scenario for people to brainstorm over; let's say that Ichigo asked the Vizards to help him invade Hueco Mundo and save Orihime, and they went with him, Chad and Uryu. Do you think they would have made a huge difference entering the battle from the beginning?
Roka literally states that there's nothing else she can think of other than Mugetsu that can kill Res Cien...
That's not what I read from the novel, iirc Cien said Starrk, Yammy and Barragan attacks are the strongest in HM if we didn't count Cien or Aizen
2nd res ulq would have ended themHere's a fun scenario for people to brainstorm over; let's say that Ichigo asked the Vizards to help him invade Hueco Mundo and save Orihime, and they went with him, Chad and Uryu. Do you think they would have made a huge difference entering the battle from the beginning?
The statement isn't all inclusive. He doesn't even mention VL ichigo. Who is obviously stronger than the EspadaThat's not what I read from the novel, iirc Cien said Starrk, Yammy and Barragan attacks are the strongest in HM if we didn't count Cien or Aizen
VL Ichigo isn't from HM, while Aizen and others were living there, and Aizen took Barragan's place in ruling the HM.The statement isn't all inclusive. He doesn't even mention VL ichigo. Who is obviously stronger than the Espada
He said everyone that ever existed in HM. That would include VL ichigo who cien also has records of.VL Ichigo isn't from HM, while Aizen and others were living there, and Aizen took Barragan's place in ruling the HM.
You know that he also didn't mention Kenpachi but we know Kenpachi is stronger than Yammy, this counterarguemnt is moot tbh
do u have ss for this? never seen itAnd no the novels confirmed fkt kenpchi's reaistu was still around Nnoittora level. Yammy didn't push kenpachi past his limits that's why he said he was boring to fight
Roka oneshotsCan't wait to get stonewalled by SE Ulq fanboys in the SAFWY scaling thread
They aren't ready for the truthRoka oneshots
Here's a fun scenario for people to brainstorm over; let's say that Ichigo asked the Vizards to help him invade Hueco Mundo and save Orihime, and they went with him, Chad and Uryu. Do you think they would have made a huge difference entering the battle from the beginning?
Debatably his entire exchange was just a KS illusionShinji's Bankai should seal the deal
And even without it I think he may be strong enough to solo
Didn't he damage an off guard Base Aizen somewhat? WITHOUT his mask at that?
Debatably his entire exchange was just a KS illusion
I smell some coping going on******* Kubo made that shit too vague
Kyoka Suigetsu fr just feels like a plot device
Unfortunately I’m lawfully married to @Wrath_Of_ItachiYes you do
Choke on my ****
wait send that?Reio, do you like ulquiorra so much that you purposely left out the scans that were saying starrk and baragan respira are stronger than him?
So was vl ichigo and this doesn't address my initial argument. Cien believes aura will use ulqs power the other Espada which means ulq is more powerfulReio, do you like ulquiorra so much that you purposely left out the scans that were saying starrk and baragan respira are stronger than him?
Only thing I have to say is Second etapa is not below other espada but it's not above others also. There is not a direct statement or anything to scale to it.So was vl ichigo and this doesn't address my initial argument. Cien believes aura will use ulqs power the other Espada which means ulq is more powerful
It's okay bro. Ik you ulq downplayers wanna believe so bad he's below the other Espada
This is what I subscribe to.Only thing I have to say is Second etapa is not below other espada but it's not above others also. There is not a direct statement or anything to scale to it.
Only thing I have to say is Second etapa is not below other espada but it's not above others also. There is not a direct statement or anything to scale to it.
Yammy is the only one fodder in his resurreccion but many won't agree with that
CopeThought Reio was only untrustworthy when it came to Naruto, but can't even take his posts at face value for Bleach
Took a point blank cero the head and lost his limbs. This means most of his body is durable enough to tank his ceros. If that isn't enough he also cutt Ichigo's horn
WUlquiorra cuts an off guard Ichigo who was in the middle of attacking Uryu, then literally gets Thanos’d after that Cero…
How this proves anything. No lmao if yeh ceros really hot his head then he would have destroyed like his half body. Pretty sure the aim should have off. Or Ulquiora put all of his Reatsu to tanks the cero on upper Body. Also don't forget VL Ichigo don't have any big scaling statement or anything that doens't out Ulquiora above others.Cope
Vl had to amp his hand just to break lanza. In a similar way to how grimmjow amps his hands.
Took a point blank cero the head and lost his limbs. This means most of his body is durable enough to tank his ceros. If that isn't enough he also cutt Ichigo's horn
SE is verbatim stated below Yammy’s maximal Res, like it’s not debatable not only is he repeatedly stated to be the strongest, but Cien (having analyzed every fight in Hueco Mundo) states that the only power in HM that surpasses Yammy’s maximal Res is his own and Aizen’s. Then it’s heavily implied that Respira and Los Lobos > anything Ulq can do.Only thing I have to say is Second etapa is not below other espada but it's not above others also. There is not a direct statement or anything to scale to it.
Yammy is the only one fodder in his resurreccion but many won't agree with that
Correct, although if you're strong enough you can simply cut through it, as Cien informs us that Kenpachi could cut through Respira.Respira isn't really an AP ability.