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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
u say there is 6, the mangta shows 12, u says the DB says 6, u are once more proven wrong

irrelevant…
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The mouths create 1 fragor according to the databook. Canon. We see 6 mouths and 6 fragors. Easy deduction.

The eyes make some sort of energy that fuses with the mouths fragors into a ring. Canon. Easy deduction again.

No source about the eyes making their own fragors. Occam Razor.

No evidence. No statements. Your entire argument is based on interpretation guess assumptions that those “must” be fragors too. I see no hard evidence to agree on them been fragors. Sorry.
 
Arcker123 said:
Can’t believe a debate about how many fragors Aizen shoots spanned more than a page tbh
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Agree. I can’t believe I have my own opinion on the matter and people still try to force down their opinions down my throat even when they may be right but still have no hard evidence to get it accepted. Sigh. 😔
 
AppleLord said:
Agree. I can’t believe I have my own opinion on the matter and people still try to force down their opinions down my throat even when they may be right but still have no hard evidence to get it accepted. Sigh. 😔
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Why’re you being so passive aggressive? Like if your mad they disagree on a debate site then leave. No one even suggested a CRT anyway.
 
Arcker123 said:
Why’re you being so passive aggressive? Like if your mad they disagree on a debate site then leave. No one even suggested a CRT anyway.
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Even now you still try to disagree with my opinion on why I even disagree to the other topic? Unbelievable. Is like you want to continue to force your opinion down my throat, to be right no matter what. No different than a religious zealous. Is like talking to a wall. 🙈🙈🙈
 
Reio35 said:

万物を凌駕する驚異的な霊圧この大きさに固唾を呑み。
"Astonishing spiritual pressure that surpasses all things.

Sokyoku is universal it's beyond all of creation/all things.

🤧
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That's basically what the english version said...
 
skippy said:
I mean Urahara made a Improved version of Hado 4 which Pierced Aizen.
Made a seal that could contain Aizen
One which blocks Reiryoku from leaving your body…
And on and on.
Shunsui said it best, if you give mayuri 1 day he can solve any problem.
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I agree with that.
And they have proven numerous times that Mayuri and Kisuke can solve almost any problem.

This always makes me think about how the two of them couldn't do anything about Aizen's zanpakuto or his immortality even when they had months and months.
So...does Aizen get any stat or abilities out of this? Or just the same old title of Goddam Overpowered S** ** * *****
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Yup, I mean you can quantify it a lot of ways:

2x b/c 2 arms = 2x 1 arm
5x b/c Gentei Kaijo allowed for a one shot level amp from relative similar to Kenny’s Kendo
8c b/c of the end chapter sketch
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Anybody knows some Underrated Characters in Bleach(Strength Wise)
Ngl i can only think of Dordoni and Kensei who are underrated.
 
Blallooo said:
Meninas legit slammed Kenpachi to the ground, sent true shikai Ichigo flying, held her own against Tybw Byakuya, traded blows with Hikone etc. She's obviously underrated.
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Liltotto too considering she beat her offscreen whilst not trying to kill her and still had enough energy left over to one-shot volt pepe
 
I am confused about the age of Senjumaru, she invented the Shihakushō and Shutara Scale, the Shihakushō was even in use 1000yrs ago, but in 13blades it is said she was a part of SRDI. So how old is she really. Maybe it wad meant she was a researcher but before the Srdi aswel, since in the flashbacks we dont see her at all, so idk 🤷‍♂️
 
skippy said:
You know its kinda Sad Lanza Del Relampago Feat is calced Lower than 1st release Ulqiorra Cero Oscuras 😭😭
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This is where "Calc vs Author Intent" comes into play and why I think calcs won't ever be perfect nor any battleboard in general.

Kubo obviously intends for Lanza to be several times stronger than Cero Oscuras, but from a calc perspective Cero Oscuras is stronger because of it's destructive properties (evidence of vaporization for instance) while Lanza doesn't.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
This is where "Calc vs Author Intent" comes into play and why I think calcs won't ever be perfect nor any battleboard in general.

Kubo obviously intends for Lanza to be several times stronger than Cero Oscuras, but from a calc perspective Cero Oscuras is stronger because of it's destructive properties (evidence of vaporization for instance) while Lanza doesn't.
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Yeah sometimes its just frustrating ngl, but where does that put ulq scaling, do we just say this tier with Cero Oscuras, higher with Grc,even higher with Lanza?
I think also If lanza was used on Las Nochas it would destroy it, since i also remember the sands and Rocks of Hueco Mundo are resistant to Burning, since it is said that they normally wouldnt burn.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
This is where "Calc vs Author Intent" comes into play and why I think calcs won't ever be perfect nor any battleboard in general.

Kubo obviously intends for Lanza to be several times stronger than Cero Oscuras, but from a calc perspective Cero Oscuras is stronger because of it's destructive properties (evidence of vaporization for instance) while Lanza doesn't.
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Las Noches has star but by pixel scaling it's size won't match 👺
 
You know it kinda feels weird calcing Bleach Feats, since if the attack is used on a person and a Explosion comes from that, wouldnt that mean that the Person attacked tanked the Hit as much as their Reiatsu allowed and the rest of the attack just exploded or smth
 
skippy said:
You know it kinda feels weird calcing Bleach Feats, since if the attack is used on a person and a Explosion comes from that, wouldnt that mean that the Person attacked tanked the Hit as much as their Reiatsu allowed and the rest of the attack just exploded or smth
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Depends on how close you are to the center of the explosion. If you tank it further out it’s less impressive than closer in.
 
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