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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

How did Yhwach neg some of Ichibei's techniques?
his own power restoration quicy abilities or the almighy RE.

copium is cope + opium, don't know if its a boomer thing its more aligned with twitch culture its when you take an L but try to rationalise it.

when ichigo took Aizen to another location, stopped his swing instead of doging or negged his transcended full incantation hado 90, Aizen was on some mad copium.
 
I read somewhere that the raws say that the powers Yhwach stoles come back to the user slowly over time except for Vollstandig. This is a weakness that needs to go in his profile. It isn’t because he died or was sealed.
 
I think the scrifts are powers yhwach already had he just gave them out on lone. Which is why he can't use them in his base.
 
I think the scrifts are powers yhwach already had he just gave them out on lone. Which is why he can't use them in his base.
From what I understand, Schrift are the same as Fullbringer, they follow the same mechanics, but while Fullbringer originates from Soul King fragments, Schrift originates from Yhwach fragments.
 
I thought shrifts were latent abilities Quincy have but that drinking Yhwach juice awakens them. Why would Yhwach give Uryu an ability that can counter him?
 
From what I understand, Schrift are the same as Fullbringer, they follow the same mechanics, but while Fullbringer originates from Soul King fragments, Schrift originates from Yhwach fragments.
Good way to think of it.

I thought shrifts were latent abilities Quincy have but that drinking Yhwach juice awakens them. Why would Yhwach give Uryu an ability that can counter him?
Some Quincies have latent abilities that Yhwach engraves his soul into, Uryu is an example, Gerard and Pernida are examples, Gremmy is potentially an example, but everyone else were gifted their powers from Yhwach.
 
Lilles intangiblity should be law manipulation
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is there way to quantify hogyoku boosts? like a hypothetical multiplier
Yup but you get a crazy multiplier. You can lowball and say the first 3 forms are over 100× due to being far superior to a bankai and resurrection. Ulqs 2nd release is a 100 times above his base so aizens forms should be superior to that.

Or you can the gap is as big as a human with low spirit energy to a espada or captain. We know humans can low spirit energy can sense espada level characters. Which would be around millions of times. Considering a single vasto lorde is equal to millions of hollows and your average human is weaker than a hollow.

So millions of times for his first 3 forms and his muken form is millions of times stronger than his 3rd and 4th fusion considering it's above mugestu who even aizens 4th form could not sense.
 
Death Battle already dumb on Aizen’s research on the intro. 😂 His fragors were said to be made of Reiryoku instead of Reishi like the databook said. I love how they wanted to sound smart by saying the differences between Reiryoku, Reishi and Reiatsu but failed. They had one job. ☝️
 
Yup but you get a crazy multiplier. You can lowball and say the first 3 forms are over 100× due to being far superior to a bankai and resurrection. Ulqs 2nd release is a 100 times above his base so aizens forms should be superior to that.

Or you can the gap is as big as a human with low spirit energy to a espada or captain. We know humans can low spirit energy can sense espada level characters. Which would be around millions of times. Considering a single vasto lorde is equal to millions of hollows and your average human is weaker than a hollow.

So millions of times for his first 3 forms and his muken form is millions of times stronger than his 3rd and 4th fusion considering it's above mugestu who even aizens 4th form could not sense.
whats that segunda etapa multiplier from
 
This want stated in the manga, IIRC the first time I saw it was on Clyde videos, if its not stated it will not get accepted here as a multiplier
2nd ressurection is just that.

so it can be 5x to 10x

tho idk where the solid 10x came from, could be from the databooks
 
Lilles intangiblity should be law manipulation
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Weirdly enough... that makes sense. It was also stated that the concept of dodging itself before X-Axis is pointless.

And then Shunsui had to create his own laws and overwrite reality with his Bankai.

Kubo being poetic as per usual.

Lille having plain intangibility always seemed a little weird, considering that even fodder Shinigami can interact with intangible spirit ribbons.
 
for all i have seen and read he is very involved with the anime
Kubo was always very involved with the anime i guess, anywhay wishfull thinking wise i want to see:
-what happened to yoruichi,urahara and grimm in anime form
-more explanation on uryu powers
- ywhach actually affecting the danm galaxies
 
Kubo was always very involved with the anime i guess, anywhay wishfull thinking wise i want to see:
-what happened to yoruichi,urahara and grimm in anime form
-more explanation on uryu powers
- ywhach actually affecting the danm galaxies
Kubo is drawing new characters, storyboards with one more person, overseeing storyboards, and discussing vague things in the manga with the anime director. Is that valid enough?
 
Question. Assuming Kubo leaves the Hell rules of the movie intact. If for some reason a very powerful being kills Aizen in a battle bypassing his Immortality. Wouldn't Aizen go to hell where he can escape using the Maws of Hell? If Aizen was killed again, wouldn't hell continue to bring him back to life? And if he has the Hogyoku can he eventually reach the level of his enemies? Of course if his opponent isn't multiversal level and able to destroy Bleach’s Hell floors.

This could be fun for composite Aizen, or just composite character in general.
 
Question. Assuming Kubo leaves the Hell rules of the movie intact. If for some reason a very powerful being kills Aizen in a battle bypassing his Immortality. Wouldn't Aizen go to hell where he can escape using the Maws of Hell? If Aizen was killed again, wouldn't hell continue to bring him back to life? And if he has the Hogyoku can he eventually reach the level of his enemies? Of course if his opponent isn't multiversal level and able to destroy Bleach’s Hell floors.

This could be fun for composite Aizen, or just composite character in general.
Do you know which chapter, or some print in which it was said that aizen can not be killed for nothing? due to his immortality
 
Those guys won't scale, post SAFWY Zaraki is a beast, u notice how in the war he took down 3 Sternritters at once?
I can only see FB Ichigo, Bankai Ginjo, and Yama scaling to him at the end of Anime, Retsu from the manga, and other few characters from the manga/novel whose speed scale to Schutzstaffel who are accepted in our scaling to be > Royd who is > that Kenpachi.

Candice and others who scale to her have nothing to do with this IIRC, but that still need to be discussed
So only the top-tier characters will scale, and that will mean Retsu was OP compared to others in the manga which I like since I always thought that she is a monster
He took down 3 stern Ritter who had no onscreen time lmao. But even then Toshiro, RG Byakuya and Gerard scale, base Aizen scales, the exiled captains would then scale, and since the novels seem so absolute, anyone with a comparable reiatsu to nobles like Byakuya and Yoruichi would scale, like base Ginjo.

Which would mean Candice scales for being able to fight him and not get instantly blitzed which contradicts how some people are saying that they can’t be higher than MHS since lightning speed is considered impressive in the novels. See how messed up that would make the scaling?
 
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