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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

i must've hit my head, when did Yhwach use telekinesis? has he used it in combat?
Iirc in the beginning of the TYBW arc he used it to make a random scrub soldier explode. Did to Ichibei as well and he used it in the short battle against TS Ichigo when they first came to the palace to save the sk. He lifted up the Wandenreich to the SK palace as well.
 
the bleach downplay has been going on for far too long. not even 5 months with uni bleach and all the hard work arc put into the crt is thrown out the window
Don’t pity me, I agreed with the downgrades.

Also, back to Gremmy. Ignoring consistency, imo the easiest cosmic feat to argue is Gremmy’s. So, he’s really nice for debating cosmic AP bleach.
 
hopefully the anime will give new details into bleach's cosmology and yhwach's feats but I bet even it does uni bleach wouldn't stick for that long anyway
It won't matter, they will refuse the feat and say that its an outlier, Gremmy literally made an outer space and they said it was outlier + illusions
 
Does gremmy have any past history further then being sealed in by Yhwach, you could sorta make the argument as a premature kid he doesn't know what space really is besides the night sky so he could've made a room with no air with a starry sky like how'd he picture it looking up, but him describing how space functions to kenpachi makes it unlikely hes patrick level intellect living under a rock.
 
Isn't Gremmy's feat only portal creation anyway
 
Cyber will be addressing that feat on his own later. So I will just leave this discussion for then.
 
It won't matter, they will refuse the feat and say that its an outlier, Gremmy literally made an outer space and they said it was outlier + illusions
Big dog. I don't necessarily disagree with galaxy level gremmy. Im one of the biggest advocaters for gremmy 3c. But on site? Its a no from me. That shit would literally make everyone in verse who's worth a **** in tybw and cfyow 3c. It being a outlier is highly understandable considering mid tiers are jumping from tier 6 all the way to tier 3 off of 1 feat that was never replicated again. You guys saying hurr durr this site is downplaying bleach is low key pretty cringe.
 
Im one of the biggest advocaters for gremmy 3c. But on site? Its a no from me. That shit would literally make everyone in verse who's worth a **** in tybw and cfyow 3c. It being a outlier is highly understandable considering mid tiers are jumping from tier 6 all the way to tier 3 off of 1 feat that was never replicated again.
I mean, that's obviously correct.
When you reject any statements from the canon material for whatever ur reasoning was, you will have 2 other things to use in scaling
1) low-tier statements/interpretations.
2) high-tier feats.
I don't there are low-tier feats in Bleach that exist as a limiter, like "I'm going to end this with my full power ~> country-level feat", so yeah.

The first one you already agree with (not talking about u specifically but in general).
The second one is where you will pull out the outlier card and use the accepted scaling to say how this feat will create an inconsistency, so accepting that feat will be stupid now.
However, my point is that when you have a feat like that, + statements that support that scaling, you should know that your understanding of the verse is probably wrong.
You guys saying hurr durr this site is downplaying bleach is low key pretty cringe.
Not sure why u are saying this to me when I only said that he shouldn't waste his time as it would never be accepted.
 
Its funny whole bleach verse is Multi continental when 4 characters are uni+.
well, I actually don't have problems with 90% of the verse being at multi-continental while only the god-tier characters are uni or whatever rating, its ok and can happen, for example, the Truth in full metal is uni+, while all other characters in the verse including the mc are tier 9 to 8.
 
Big dog. I don't necessarily disagree with galaxy level gremmy. Im one of the biggest advocaters for gremmy 3c. But on site? Its a no from me. That shit would literally make everyone in verse who's worth a **** in tybw and cfyow 3c. It being a outlier is highly understandable considering mid tiers are jumping from tier 6 all the way to tier 3 off of 1 feat that was never replicated again. You guys saying hurr durr this site is downplaying bleach is low key pretty cringe.
Everyone who is worth a **** 3C?… zaraki is literally one of the strongest character, people just lowball him too much if you really think that
 
Isn't Multi continental to planetary looks more realistic than from Multi continental to Universal... ?
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Big dog. I don't necessarily disagree with galaxy level gremmy. Im one of the biggest advocaters for gremmy 3c. But on site? Its a no from me. That shit would literally make everyone in verse who's worth a **** in tybw and cfyow 3c. It being a outlier is highly understandable considering mid tiers are jumping from tier 6 all the way to tier 3 off of 1 feat that was never replicated again. You guys saying hurr durr this site is downplaying bleach is low key pretty cringe.
It's not even bleach downplaying the problem, instead it's the absurd wank for so many other verses that makes you think about different standards
 
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