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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Yeah don't trust google translate to give you an accurate translation.

I will get to the Hell Arc scan later, albeit at a quick glance it seems pretty similar to VIZ.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
"Became unequal" inherently implies Kisuke and Aizen used to be relative, which isn't an inconsistency with Aizen's "unrivaled in SS" because Kisuke doesn't reside in SS when those statements are made.
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I mean it could also imply that Aizen got much stronger than Kisuke after he left SS as it says "became unequal" instead of like "is no longer equal" or "isn't equal anymore" but whatever, i stopped power scaling anyway

Also could you translate the scan i tagged you ? I see the word Vanish/disappear 2 times in that dialogue
 
Should Kisuke have 'higher with certain spells' (like spirit cuffs) in his rating as Tokinada said Kisuke could one shot "us" with spells which should include Aura as well
 
Ssr4vegito said:
I mean it could also imply that Aizen got much stronger than Kisuke after he left SS as it says "became unequal" instead of like "is no longer equal" or "isn't equal anymore" but whatever, i stopped power scaling anyway

Also could you translate the scan i tagged you ? I see the word Vanish/disappear 2 times in that dialogue
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No, in that context they were using about that Aizen, Kisuke said something like "you said you weren't going to be cautious" Aizen said "I'm not cautious, I'm observing, you are the only one in the soul society whose mind is more brilliant than mine, even tho our powers are no longer equal/became equal I'm still interested in you"

So from the point Kisuke started, they were talking about the moment Aizen evolved to this next level because Aizen stopped being cautious the moment he evolved, they weren't talking about the past, so it's improbable IMO
Ssr4vegito said:
Should Kisuke have 'higher with certain spells' (like spirit cuffs) in his rating as Tokinada said Kisuke could one shot "us" with spells which should include Aura as well
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Tokinada didn't specify which spell, I don't think we should assume the spirit cuffs, because it can not work on Aura as Kisuke cant touch here because she can transform, it could be any Kido as we don't know, but Kisuke shouldn't have that based on Tokinada’s statement as I don't see any problem with him being above Tokinada without Hax, he has a higher Reiatsu than Aura whose Reiatsu is above Tokinada so yeah, his rating is above Tokinada whatsoever
 
Just saw the DB aizen vid they pretty much summed up all his abilities correctly.

Iirc someone said the dive into madara addressed his stats(speed,ap etc dunno if it was a different vid) so thats missing for aizen but it should still be interesting.
 
Loyd said:
Just saw the DB aizen vid they pretty much summed up all his abilities correctly.

Iirc someone said the dive into madara addressed his stats(speed,ap etc dunno if it was a different vid) so thats missing for aizen but it should still be interesting.
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i dont see any aizen video
 
Loyd said:
Just saw the DB aizen vid they pretty much summed up all his abilities correctly.

Iirc someone said the dive into madara addressed his stats(speed,ap etc dunno if it was a different vid) so thats missing for aizen but it should still be interesting.
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Yeah they did on the Madara Preview Yesterday, I just feel that they aren't informed on Bleach.
 
BleachHollow said:
I just hope they include Manga and Novel Aizen, even though they usually don't
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Not including manga and novel is the only way to not have it an utter stomp, because it's rather obvious that Aizen dwarves Madara in power
Yet it's death battle and probably they will found a way to downplay Aizen to oblivion and let Madara win
 
Aizen was stronger than yamamoto. Yama needed to prep a attack to beat aizen. Yama got smacked across they city by one of aizens arrancar.

Ulq said he could have beaten kisuke and even smacked away one of hid attacks so i don't think he scales to any version of aizen
 
Aizen has stated in the manga that Yama's battle prowess exceeds his.

It's true that Kisuke did go Shikai to fight Yammy , Luppi , and Ulquiorra no sold his attack meant to hurt Yammy
 
AppleLord said:
Aizen says “unequaled in the soul society” Urahara was not in the Soul Society when Aizen was Captain. You are implying lieutenant Aizen was stronger than all Captains, including Yamamoto.
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Well, I think we can agree that lieutenant Aizen is not your ordinary lieutenant.
 
Reio35 said:
Aizen was stronger than yamamoto. Yama needed to prep a attack to beat aizen.
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He made that prep because of Aizen's illusions, he needed a ******* AOE attack that will destroy the whole area to guarantee that Aizen is dead.
actually using your own argument, Aizen made prep for Yamamoto to seal his RJ, so that means Yamamoto is above Aizen, gg.
Reio35 said:
Yama got smacked across they city by one of aizens arrancar.
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Yama destroyed him completely
Reio35 said:
Ulq said he could have beaten kisuke and even smacked away one of hid attacks so i don't think he scales to any version of aizen
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He didn't, he said that he will win there because Kisuke will be fighting and trying to protect Ichigo, and Orihime all at once so that will be hard to do, he never said he could beat Kisuke.
Damage3245 said:
Well, I think we can agree that lieutenant Aizen is not your ordinary lieutenant.
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True, he isn't as Tessai thought that his Hado 88 can destroy an assistant captain, but Aizen easily blocked it.
However, if we are going to take his statements (about being unequaled) literally, a contradiction will be created as he said that Yama is stronger than him, or you can say that Aizen didn't include Yama in his statement as he said that Yama is above him and all things will be fine, no contradiction is there, a specific statement specifies a general one, it's one of the ways I use to interpret Bleach to avoid the discussion of "Nah ur evidence contradicts mine therefor urs is invalid"
 
If anything, this statement here can mean that Ulq will need to use Ichigo, and Orihime as decoys in order to be able to win there, and he won't fight straight face to face.
doing some integrations is funnier than debating with Ulq fans
 
I still wonder if people know the difference between Aizen beating base Yamamoto with his own Shikai. And Aizen straight out beating Yamamoto one on one.
 
Vice captain aizen stopped a kido attack from the strongest kido user in SS tessai without incantations. Also tanked yamas kido 96
 
AppleLord said:
If Aizen was stronger than everyone why did he took to long to achieve his goal? He could had stomp everyone and become Soul King back then right?
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Aizen aim was not to kill everyone, but take soul king place, and base Aizen is not strong enough to beat Ichibei.
 
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