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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
Reiryoku isn’t dormant spirit energy, Reiryoku is just how you say spirit energy in Japanese lol. And no read like the late chapter 40s where Quincy mechanics are explained. In fact I think someone sent the scan recently in this chat.
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Doesn’t change the fact that they need to posses spiritual energy to damage spiritual entity. They do not exerts reatsu don't mean they do not posses spiritual energy. So yes, quincies definitely posses spiritual energy like every other race.
Arc7Kuroi said:
You’re free to think that 👍 if you’d like to prove that that power randomly vanished when nothing of the sort is implied, go for it
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It's not about disappearing or not. Both are simply different versions and posses different level of power.
Mimihagi mark makes it very clear.

So yeah, renji doesn’t scale to the same one that scales to senjumaru that fact still stands tall
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
In terms of physical condition yes, but Feder Zwinger nerfed his Shikai and Bankai and we don't know if that's gone yet
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Why feder Zwinger would nerf his shikai and bankai right now?
If he just healed he can just go back on his own fighting.

He just not strong enough to fight Gerard, that’s it.
 
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Tyri456 said:
Why feder Zwinger would nerf his shikai and bankai?
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Uryu directly stated that it nerfs his Shikai and Bankai, which we also see is the case because his Bankai at the end of his fight was only a skeleton compared to the actual Soō Zabimaru. But again, we'll see if the nerfs still affect him, but I predict that they're still in effect. If not, oh well.
Tyri456 said:
He just not strong enough to fight Gerard, that’s it.
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We'll see how it goes, but I think that scene was a way to balance out the scaling, although it really wouldn't be the worst if Byakuya, Kenny, and Toshiro scaled to him since

1. Byakuya got the same training as Renji

2. Kenpachi became a top tier in CFYOW, which means the scaling would just happen earlier

3. Toshiro is special idk
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Uryu directly stated that it nerfs his Shikai and Bankai, which we also see is the case because his Bankai at the end of his fight was only a skeleton compared to the actual Soō Zabimaru. But again, we'll see if the nerfs still affect him, but I predict that they're still in effect. If not, oh well.

We'll see how it goes, but I think that scene was a way to balance out the scaling, although it really wouldn't be the worst if Byakuya, Kenny, and Toshiro scaled to him since

1. Byakuya got the same training as Renji

2. Kenpachi became a top tier in CFYOW, which means the scaling would just happen earlier

3. Toshiro is special idk
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If he is healed, him being nerfed would be utterly baseless.

Waiting for adult toshiro's massive upgrade. He really deserves it though I don't like him. I have no idea why he is people’s favorite.
 
It’d be nice if we see Renji use Bankai against Gerard so we can get confirmation on his current state/condition.

But Uryu did shoot him through his Shinigami organs too, so if he hasn’t had any time for that to recover he probably is nerfed. I believe a similar thing left Shuhei out of commission for a long long time. We also know that healing someone doesn’t guarantee their reiatsu and Reiryoku is fully restored, we see this when Orihime heals people.
 
Who are the people that fight Gerard in the manga? I only know about 3, and I'd like to know if someone who wasn't present shows up when the anime does the fight.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Who are the people that fight Gerard in the manga? I only know about 3, and I'd like to know if someone who wasn't present shows up when the anime does the fight.
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Some of the Vizard do (Shinji, Love, Hiyori, Hachigen), Renji, Rukia, Zaraki, Byakuya, and Toshiro, and Momo. I think that’s it from the manga, although it was really only Renji, Byakuya, Zaraki, and Toshiro that really ever did anything lol
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Some of the Vizard do (Shinji, Love, Hiyori, Hachigen), Renji, Rukia, Zaraki, Byakuya, and Toshiro, and Momo. I think that’s it from the manga, although it was really only Renji, Byakuya, Zaraki, and Toshiro that really ever did anything lol
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Yeah, I only knew Zaraki and Toshiro, vaguely recalled Byakuya. Thanks 👍
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
It’d be nice if we see Renji use Bankai against Gerard so we can get confirmation on his current state/condition.

But Uryu did shoot him through his Shinigami organs too, so if he hasn’t had any time for that to recover he probably is nerfed. I believe a similar thing left Shuhei out of commission for a long long time. We also know that healing someone doesn’t guarantee their reiatsu and Reiryoku is fully restored, we see this when Orihime heals people.
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That and we don't know if the healing recovered his power either. We definitely know Orihime could've gotten rid of it with Shun Shun Rikka, but based on the location it would be hard for Renji to get treatment from her.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
That and we don't know if the healing recovered his power either. We definitely know Orihime could've gotten rid of it with Shun Shun Rikka, but based on the location it would be hard for Renji to get treatment from her.
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Actually I’m pretty sure Orihime says she has a hard time restoring Reiryoku opposed to just healing wounds
 
I would not be surprised if Uryu vs Jugram is teased. And only teased at the start of episode 40 (6-8 minutes) and the rest of the episode is Ichigo and Orihime vs Yhwach fight leaving the cliffhanger where he leaves for the Soul Society. Cour 4 would then start with Uryu vs Jugram and cut off to the Askin fight.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
You’re right, you’re not allowed to get affected by hax if you got high power level 😤 fvck Aizen saying the power null stuff involved battles of Shinigami and Shinigami-like beings. Fvck Ichigo
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Shinigami. ***** here taking about a Quincy and whatever-the-French the Soul King’s race is called.
 
AppleLord said:
I would not be surprised if Uryu vs Jugram is teased. And only teased at the start of episode 40 (6-8 minutes) and the rest of the episode is Ichigo and Orihime vs Yhwach fight leaving the cliffhanger where he leaves for the Soul Society. Cour 4 would then start with Uryu vs Jugram and cut off to the Askin fight.
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The episode ends on them climbing the stairs to face Yhwach
 
Yhwach gets new posible universal feat:

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Yhwach is affecting the atmosphere/reality/outerspace
 
The final wait tho, after that wait we have the entire original story in its peak form. Some of us waited the grueling 10 years for the anime to return or 6 years between the manga ending the anime return, what's another year.
 
That little blonde Quincy girl from the past without a name will finally be confirmed to be named SPOILERS!

She has a guy name. :/
 
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