BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[ReaperAndBlues]

Kinda expected that tbh. Unohana outskills Sakura to an actually kinda sad degree, hell even in Taijutsu/Hakuda I could argue she'd still destroy her. Plus she's stronger, faster, smarter, more haxxed, and hotter (not a real point just saying)

 

[Arcker123]

Can we use Chairzen in matches here (Muken Aizen who's strapped to a chair/fought the Reio monsters) and have them added?

He actually has combat feats, and can use most of his abilities, he's just tied to the chair.

 

[Nierre]

standard equipment: chair

 

[Arcker123]

Real, it's not like he's massively weaker

 

[GOATMAN1232000]

It still takes away all his mobility. I don't think it should be added to his profile if the fight takes away such a huge facet of a character. He isn't able to dodge any attack and he is forced to just take it. That seems like a massive disadvantage.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

What if we made the chair a profile

 

[GOATMAN1232000]

What if we made the chair a profile

Too powerful for this site.

 

[Arcker123]

It still takes away all his mobility. I don't think it should be added to his profile if the fight takes away such a huge facet of a character. He isn't able to dodge any attack and he is forced to just take it. That seems like a massive disadvantage.

There are plenty of characters who can't move. It doesn't mean anything for adding it to matches, you just have to explain that in the losses/victory section

 

[GOATMAN1232000]

There are plenty of characters who can't move. It doesn't mean anything for adding it to matches, you just have to explain that in the losses/victory section

I think that is because they are immobile by default. Aizen is not immobile by default. He is immobile only when in the chair, but that is a big disadvantage. It's like restricting RC imo, and matches with RC restricted are not added to profiles I'm pretty sure.

 

[Arcker123]

I think that is because they are immobile by default. Aizen is not immobile by default. He is immobile only when in the chair, but that is a big disadvantage. It's like restricting RC imo, and matches with RC restricted are not added to profiles I'm pretty sure.

Chairzen is immobile by default

All I'm doing is using a version of the character who has fought before in the manga. Just because that version is weaker than that characters best is not at all comparable to restricting RC, which is an ability, not a version.

 

[GOATMAN1232000]

Chairzen is immobile by default

There is no Chairzen key. There is TYBW key. Who is not immobile by default.

 

[Arcker123]

There is no Chairzen key. There is TYBW key. Who is not immobile by default.

Yes.... I'm simply suggesting we use that key with the stipulation he's in the chair, which is a canon version of that key.

It's the same reason why we can use Shinigami Aizen (Soul Society before Hogyoku fusion) vs First Fusion Aizen (FKT who's fused with the hogyoku) despite there only being one key for base Aizen. You just stipulate these things in matches.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I already got the specs for it

Attack Potency: Varies, Galaxy Level when bonded with Aizen (Should have destructive power comparable to Aizen due to having his reiatsu)

Striking Strength: Varies, Galaxy Level when bonded with Aizen (Comparable to Aizen)

Durability: At least Galaxy Level (Capable of containing Aizen's reiatsu)

Speed: Immobile (is a chair) FTL attack speed with Aizen's Reiatsu (sniped the Royal Palace)

Range: Below Standard Melee Range normally, Varies depending on who's bound to it, thousands of kilomenters, possibly Interdimensional to Universal with Aizen.

Intelligence: Mindless (It's only a chair), Extraordinary Genius, possibly Supergenius with Aizen (since Aizen is bound to it, the chair would be working alongside him)

 

[Crobatman44]

Speed: Immobile (is a chair)

Intelligence: Mindless (It's only a chair)

This alone makes the idea worthy.

 

[Arcker123]

Incons everyone with its 3-C durability

 

[GinDan]

Maybe new trailer for Bleach in japan expo Paris Friday, July 12

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Anyone know this dude's name? I may have heard it before but I genuinely forgot
Him busting a hollow's skull off with a palm strike was badass though
Edit: Nvm I found it. Ignore this comment

 

[Tyri456]

The thing is, Kaguya's immortal, he can't really kill her unless she's gone, reduced to atoms, and if he's hit with All-Killing Ash Bones, he'll start to decay rapidly. Also Portal.

Bleach chara can attacks and destroy your soul, Kaguya immortality is a no factor

 

[Tyri456]

I already got the specs for it

Atrack Potency: Varies, Galaxy Level when bonded with Aizen (Should have destructive power comparable to Aizen due to having his reiatsu)

Striking Strength: Varies, Galaxy Level when bonded with Aizen (Comparable to Aizen)

Durability: At least Galaxy Level (Capable of containing Aizen's reiatsu)

Speed: Immobile (is a chair) FTL attack speed with Aizen's Reiatsu (sniped the Royal Palace)

Range: Below Standard Melee Range normally, Varies depending on who's bound to it, thousands of kilomenters, possibly Interdimensional to Universal with Aizen.

Intelligence: Mindless (It's only a chair), Extraordinary Genius, possibly Supergenius with Aizen (since Aizen is bound to it, the chair would be working alongside him)

the chair also has some degree of power null iirc lol
would be funny a profile, even if it will never happen

 

[Arcker123]

Bleach chara can attacks and destroy your soul, Kaguya immortality is a no factor

Kaguya can regenerate from her Chakra which is her spiritual energy -> Mid Godly which Zaraki gets stopped by

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Kaguya can regenerate from her Chakra which is her spiritual energy -> Mid Godly which Zaraki gets stopped by

stop wanking

 

[Arcker123]

Debunk?

 

[AppleLord]

Kubo came out and said Iba is blind. How? Aizen used KS on him and Kira to pretend he was Momo and slash both of them. Did Kubo forgot Aizen said KS doesn’t work on blind like Tousen? And why does Iba have the eyes of the Soul King in Kubo’s drawing?

 

[Arcker123]

When did he say this?

 

[Excellence616]

Kubo came out and said Iba is blind. How? Aizen used KS on him and Kira to pretend he was Momo and slash both of them. Did Kubo forgot Aizen said KS doesn’t work on blind like Tousen? And why does Iba have the eyes of the Soul King in Kubo’s drawing?

Kubo said nothing about Iba being blind. He said something about what is behind Iba's glasses.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Chairzen is immobile by default

All I'm doing is using a version of the character who has fought before in the manga. Just because that version is weaker than that characters best is not at all comparable to restricting RC, which is an ability, not a version

No, I think it’d be likes:

Immobile movement speed, with FTL+ attack speed and reactions

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Kubo came out and said Iba is blind. How? Aizen used KS on him and Kira to pretend he was Momo and slash both of them. Did Kubo forgot Aizen said KS doesn’t work on blind like Tousen? And why does Iba have the eyes of the Soul King in Kubo’s drawing?

He never had the Reio’s eyes in any drawing, and we literally see the Reiō has it’s two eyes in every Reiō shot (basically).

 

[KingogKings777]

Kaguya can regenerate from her Chakra which is her spiritual energy -> Mid Godly which Zaraki gets stopped by

Kaguya has no regen on the site though?

 

[Deceived3596]

Kaguya has no regen on the site though?

Arcker isn't using the profile, he's providing his own arguments.

 

[Arcker123]

Kaguya has no regen on the site though?

Damn Kaguya sucks lmao.

Any Bleach mid high tier stomps then. Azashiro cooks her so bad.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Unohana womanhandles her

 

[Crobatman44]

Pretty certain she has an L to Pernida in her profile atm.

 

[SlendVeny]

Kaguya has no regen on the site though?

She literally gets her arm torn off and regrows it, having no regen is just blatantly wrong.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Pretty certain she has an L to Pernida in her profile atm.

Correct you are

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

She literally gets her arm torn off and regrows it, having no regen is just blatantly wrong.

She only has Low-Godly tho. Bleach characters negate regen all the way up to Low-Godly naturally due to the nature of attacking the mind, body, and soul, given all of it is destroyed. If Kaguya gets her soul destroyed, she's toast. Only Mid-Godly or greater can regen Bleach attacks, even so, there are also characters who can negate mid-godly like Yhwach.

 

[SlendVeny]

She only has Low-Godly tho. Bleach characters negate regen all the way up to Low-Godly naturally due to the nature of attacking the mind, body, and soul, given all of it is destroyed. If Kaguya gets her soul destroyed, she's toast. Only Mid-Godly or greater can regen Bleach attacks, even so, there are also characters who can negate mid-godly like Yhwach.

That wasn't my contention, I just said having none is ridiculous.

Don't worry though, I'm sure some soul hax will be retroactively applied to all Otsutsuki by Momoshiki.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

That wasn't my contention, I just said having none is ridiculous.

Don't worry though, I'm sure some soul hax will be retroactively applied to all Otsutsuki by Momoshiki.

They're still getting fear haxxed by RC tho. AFAIK, thr Naruto verse has no answers to fear hax at all, along with madness hax too (except Kaguya for some reason? Only by the fact that it's self applied madness manip.)

 

[SlendVeny]

They're still getting fear haxxed by RC tho. AFAIK, thr Naruto verse has no answers to fear hax at all, along with madness hax too (except Kaguya for some reason? Only by the fact that it's self applied madness manip.)

Fear hax is something everyone gets in Naruto just by being an angry little fella.

 

[Bastolan27]

Kaguya has no regen on the site though?

Cap Kaguya has low-mid regeneration; it's in the Otsutsuki physiology section. The reason it got downgraded is that she has resistance to TSOs, so the feat in question is not valid. plus it might just be some form of shapeshifting, as she transformed from her Juubi state to her humanoid state. There's no other regeneration feat aside from her arm, which is just low-mid. Unless Boruto's Otsutsuki retroactively buffed her, she can only regenerate when going into her Juubi form.

My personal opinion is that she should scale to the Bijuu regeneration in her Juubi state, but that's also only low-mid... unless Boruto buffs it via Hima and Kurama becoming Wolverine.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Cap Kaguya has low-mid regeneration; it's in the Otsutsuki physiology section. The reason it got downgraded is that she has resistance to TSOs, so the feat in question is not valid. plus it might just be some form of shapeshifting, as she transformed from her Juubi state to her humanoid state. There's no other regeneration feat aside from her arm, which is just low-mid. Unless Boruto's Otsutsuki retroactively buffed her, she can only regenerate when going into her Juubi form.

My personal opinion is that she should scale to the Bijuu regeneration in her Juubi state, but that's also only low-mid... unless Boruto buffs it via Hima and Kurama becoming Wolverine.

Isn't it Low-Godly?