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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Senju, over Ichibei?
Ichibei is more wise than he is smart imo. Hikifune created the artificial soul, and Senjumaru was the leader of the pseudo R&D before Urahara created it and she was the one who taught Mayuri.
What is your rationale for Aizen being below Mayuri?
I didn't notice that, why is Mayuri>Aizen?
In terms of science, research and all that jazz, I have Mayuri above Aizen. He has probably made the second most amount of scientific wonders that we see in the series, only surpassed by Urahara. And there may be a little bit of Mayuri fanboying.
 
Ichibei is more wise than he is smart imo. Hikifune created the artificial soul, and Senjumaru was the leader of the pseudo R&D before Urahara created it and she was the one who taught Mayuri.
Senju doesn't really have many feats... Ichibei named every concept in the SS, and has knowledge rivaling even the big Gs. He's also one of the only few to use sacred Kido and literally created Bankai itself

In terms of science, research and all that jazz, I have Mayuri above Aizen. He has probably made the second most amount of scientific wonders that we see in the series, only surpassed by Urahara. And there may be a little bit of Mayuri fanboying.
Yeah, one hell of 'a little'
 
Senju doesn't really have many feats... Ichibei named every concept in the SS, and has knowledge rivaling even the big Gs. He's also one of the only few to use sacred Kido and literally created Bankai itself
Fair enough. Ichibei just doesn't have that scientist vibe. He's like a walking library of information, rather than a scientist, which is what I based my list off of.
Yeah, one hell of 'a little'
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It can incap people, it's just the weaker fusion between paralysis and madness hax
in can incap ppl inverse coz the character actually knows about them

why would naruto for example get scared of some random fodder in bleach when he knows nothing about the person?? would he still get scared if was thousands of times stronger?
 
Being afraid of someone due to social standing isn't fear hax. It's social influencing, which isn't reiatsu crush (You're description of RC fear hax is so inaccurate you described an ability which isn’t fear hax). Kenny was straight up making ichigo hallucinate due to sheer fear, despite them not knowing each other, so you're just wrong there.

The ability to supernaturally induce fear requires specific hax resistance, like any hax. Hax doesn't care about your AP (to a point, looking at you 4D and up characters).

Edit: Its like empathic hax (Fear hax is by nature a very well defined and specific subtype of empathic hax). Just as AP wouldn't let you resist me making you feel love without resistance feats, neither would it let you resist being made to feel fear.
 
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Being afraid of someone due to social standing isn't fear hax. It's social influencing, which isn't reiatsu crush (You're description of RC fear hax is so inaccurate you described an ability which isn’t fear hax). Kenny was straight up making ichigo hallucinate due to sheer fear, despite them not knowing each other, so you're just wrong there.
Zabuza drove Sasuke, who barely knew anything about him or his village or his techniques other than that his sword was big and fast, to nearly attempt suicide just by being within a few dozen meters of him, and Orochimaru made Kakashi, who was unfazed by that, see himself dying just by glaring at him.
 
Only thing i want to see in the anime is Yhwach using a stenritter ability that he absorbed, so people can finally shut their trap

And some elaboration on the cosmology
No. Thay would be insult to almighty. There's nothing to prove.

I think we might get something on Cosmos
 
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Alright, for the smartest Bleach characters, I have a top 10 list, is this a good list?

10. Gin

9. Unohana/Shunsui

8. Yamaji

7. Toshiro

6. Tokinada

5. Szayelaporro

4. Mayuri

3. Ichibei

2. Aizen

1. Urahara

0. Don Kanoji
Yhwach should be number 1/2. Don't forget base yhwach said he could deal with aizen. That would include hogyoku. Also he is by far best warlord. Good list, just missing askin
 
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Yhwach should be number 1/2. Don't forget base yhwach said he could deal with aizen. That would include hogyoku. Also he is by far best warlord. Good list, just missing askin
Askin is difficult to rank, plus I'm not sure if Yhwach would just be a genius or possibly more. I know Almighty Yhwach probably is
 
Zabuza drove Sasuke, who barely knew anything about him or his village or his techniques other than that his sword was big and fast, to nearly attempt suicide just by being within a few dozen meters of him, and Orochimaru made Kakashi, who was unfazed by that, see himself dying just by glaring at him.
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Yhwach should be number 1/2. Don't forget base yhwach said he could deal with aizen. That would include hogyoku. Also he is by far best warlord. Good list, just missing askin
Askin is difficult to rank, plus I'm not sure if Yhwach would just be a genius or possibly more. I know Almighty Yhwach probably is
Bruh, I don't know how many times I have to say this. Supergenius Yhwach is not a joke. I think we should wait for the Almighty explanation in the anime, but he literally meets the non-technological requirement. Also, confirming Supergenius Bleach might help us with the Aizen and Urahara downplay.
 
Bruh, I don't know how many times I have to say this. Supergenius Yhwach is not a joke. I think we should wait for the Almighty explanation in the anime, but he literally meets the non-technological requirement. Also, confirming Supergenius Bleach might help us with the Aizen and Urahara downplay.
I mean in general, ofc supergenius Yhwach makes sense to me.
 
I prefer the Negacion. Everybody and their grandmother is lightspeed.

In the matter of speed, does anyone know how fast Uryu's arrows were in the first arc? I remember him shooting Hollows that appear all over Karakura as soon as they step out of the Garganta, but I haven't found a calc for it.
 
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