Why do pseudo-AS Wan, AS Wan and AS Korra not scale to Vaatu exactly? I see in the OP that Wan “didn’t really even cause Vaatu any significant harm” but, let’s ignore that he very clearly has regen that fixes the damage, by that same line of reasoning, Raava and Vaatu themselves don’t cause each other any harm at all when we know they are equal prior to Wan’s interference and thus … wouldn’t scale to each other?
The problem from this however isn’t just because both have regen to “fix damage” (which, as we saw presented, was small holes incurred on their bodies by bending blasts at best)
Vaatu wasn’t overpowered, matched in power or had any reason whatsoever to even fight against them seriously, BECAUSE of the fact that Raava got drastically depowered during Wans harmonic convergence. Raava in her prime had kept Vaatu restrained enough to keep him under lock and key until Wan interfered with them, and by influencing dark spirits to shift the balance of light/darkness, Vaatu became incredibly confident that he would’ve permanently destroyed Raava in her weakened state
(Even though realistically, we as the viewers, know that’s impossible for one to forever destroy the other)
Even if we ignore the fact that Vaatu was beating pseudo Wan around like a ragdoll, and barely went on the offensive against Korra before Unalaq fused with him
There is no reason for Vaatu to use anything close to full power against a significantly depowered Raava, or their vessels.
Not to mention, what I bolded out from your response here also answers the question on why they shouldn’t scale. If Prime Raava & Prime Vaatu, as equals, struggled for supremacy over the other for 10,000 years, why would
an even weaker Raava, who became so depowered that Wan had to carry her in his teapot, be anywhere close to the power of
an ENHANCED Vaatu after influencing dark spirits? That makes no sense.
Pseudo-AS and AS Wan on the other hand blatantly do cause damage to Vaatu with the studio’s liberal usage of the chiming sound effect that denotes him harming the evil kite’s body
As I mentioned above, this at best is causing small punctured holes in Vaatus body, which we visibly seen, didn’t slow Vaatu down or anything similar. Having regen is one thing, but growing tired or exhausted after continuous use of it is another. The latter we don’t see from Vaatu.
Plus, more importantly, there’s the matter of Vaatu holding back as I also mention above.
Same thing happens with AS Korra when Vaatu is freed and not weakened at all while being fully aware of what happened last time so it’s not like he’d be holding back against her.
I had mentioned this to Brackish earlier, but the fight between Korra and Vaatu says otherwise.
Vaatu in this fight is seen to be
even less on the offensive against Korra than he was with Wan. The fight pretty much consisted of Vaatu just dodging Korras attacks, blasting her ONE time with a spirit ray, & then restraining her in spirit vines, before Unalaq and him fused. This, if anything, shows Vaatu was just stalling for time for Unalaq to come back and was less inclined with actually fighting Korra. If he were serious in trying to attack or destroy her, this wouldn’t have been the case.
Not to mention, while I see your point, it is highly in character for Vaatu to still have the same overconfidence as he did during Wans Harmonic Convergence. He was still highly confident that he’d permanently destroy Raava after getting free. The only thing that taken him by surprise was her & Wan fusing together, and that wasn’t a problem the second time because of Unalaqs assistance.
But let’s just steelman that Vaatu was weakened during LoK
Just want to clarify so there’s no confusion, my argument isn’t that Vaatu got weakened in Korras era. My argument is about Vaatu not fighting her or Wan seriously because of Raavas condition.
Wan would still have to scale at the bare minimum since that is one thing that cannot be disputed since he fights on par with/completely overwhelms Vaatu at his peak (short of Raava being temporarily destroyed).
Please see above
Even saying that Vaatu was holding back for whatever reason against Wan once Raava possessed him, he still ran away when they fused
When did this happen?
and couldn’t do anything once Wan put him in a ball before stuffing him in the tree. Said ball being AS Wan’s bending … aka his AP and tier.
The elemental sphere was a
seal placed on Vaatu & the Tree of Time, confining him to a barrier. Sealing is not AP.
And not to mention, again, this counter argument suggests Tiny Raava, WEAKER than her prime state, is capable of matching an Enhanced Vaatu, who is ABOVE his prime state
Which…is completely wrong and goes against the whole narrative on why Wan and Raava needed to combine in the first place.
And has superior feats to Raava and Vaatu themselves.
? No he doesn’t. The “superior feats” is just Wan scaling to Raava because the Avatar State is a boost that draws on her power from the avatar spirit.
Someone else also said something about no Avatar showing off the kind of power such scaling to Tui and La implies which is just … the worst kind of logic to apply here.
Why are you mentioning this though? I never claimed this in the OP.
