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For Reasons Above, aka, I agree with Random's arguments.WHat does FRA mean?
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For Reasons Above, aka, I agree with Random's arguments.WHat does FRA mean?
How about you agree to agree with me or am I just uncoolFor Reasons Above, aka, I agree with Random's arguments.
For Reasons Above.WHat does FRA mean?
How would this work against someone extremely small?Looking at the move again, the move basically gives Ace virtually no time to create any offense or defense. As soon as he's in the Fireman's Carry, he's getting dropped.
He literally can though lol. He deadass one shots them.You once said "theory could also handle tigers and crocodiles" Seems silly doesn't it
Hmm? How is it not bad? He literally threw one punch randomly and got destroyed and lost... If it was good he would've been consistently be doing his moves via instinct instead of just randomly doing one movementHow is that bad in any way? That's solid IR for an opponent that thinks they have the upper hand, and considering that kid Ace is pretty arrogant, that could be his downfall.
You are definitely overhyping,I'm...confused on what you mean by the bolded words. Also, I'm not overhyping anything whatsoever.
Not as impressive as combining Jujitsu, Pancrase, Muay Thai, Kickboxing, and Boxing in combat. Using the likes of The Undertaker and Kurt Angle would just be overkill. Theory has fought on par with far more versatile fighters with many different styles, from Luchadores, Technicians, Strikers, Powerhouses, and even hybrids of multiple different styles of combat. This is impressive, but nothing crazy.
Like what?Are you also forgetting the fact that Theory has Instinctive Reactions? On top of a skill advantage? Ace is going to struggle to land any meaningful hits.
I'm sorry daddy.How about you agree to agree with me or am I just uncool
The second option is a no, considering how fast Theory does the ATL.How would this work against someone extremely small?
With how versatile and small Ace is, as soon as Theory lets go of Ace's legs for the drop, Ace can just wrap around his neck and potentially flip Theory around with his own greater LS, or just elbow him in the face and jump away.
Nobody needs to wait for shit lmao. Other supporters are arguing for Ace, Tempest is not a requirement for the debate to progress.Honestly, those vote for Theory need to be on hold/removed until proper concensus has reached (and until Tempest come as well)
What about those are overhyping??You are definitely overhyping,
Like what?
Nobody needs to wait for shit lmao. Other supporters are arguing for Ace, Tempest is not a requirement for the debate to progress.
Prolly shouldn't say shit like this, makes it seem like you just want to spite WWE.Sush, it's for nailed the coffin
You didn't even watch the full match lol. This was a back and forth matchup.Hmm? How is it not bad? He literally threw one punch randomly and got destroyed and lost... If it was good he would've been consistently be doing his moves via instinct instead of just randomly doing one movement
So combining multiple forms of combat is wank? What are you trying to get at here? I was literally just summarizing skill feats, and how it's superior to Ace's skill feats.You are definitely overhyping,
******* THANK YOU! These are literally skill feats that I've showed legitimate proof for. Ace hasn't showed anything close to this.What about those are overhyping??
He literally just listed the types of fighting styles Theory has fought against and defeated. Those look far more impressive than what I've seen for Ace so far.
It's baffling how many people are in denial just because it's WWE, when Random hasn't even mentioned anything crazy
Honestly, those vote for Theory need to be on hold/removed until proper concensus has reached (and until Tempest come as well)
I just meant like use his legs, wrap them around his neck, and flip him around (since he has greater LS)First one is a bit confusing to read, but I'll take your word for it.
Not saying he's more versatile, but I'm saying that he is versatile. Because of his height and weight difference, he can pull off more "stunts" than Theory, because he should be more nimble just due to his stature. But I wasn't saying that he's more versatile, I was just saying while Theory is in the middle of the move, Ace can force himself out because he's extremely smallAlso, I'm not too sure how Ace is more versatile.
But at the same time it become so annoying to deal with tbh, even as a low-key WWE supporters these can reach the level of wankWhat about those are overhyping??
He literally just listed the types of fighting styles Theory has fought against and defeated. Those look far more impressive than what I've seen for Ace so far.
It's baffling how many people are in denial just because it's WWE, when Random hasn't even mentioned anything crazy
The fact that azontr said this...Prolly shouldn't say shit like this, makes it seem like you just want to spite WWE.
I'm talking about his endurance and Stamina here.Why are you acting like a 1.3x AP advantage is a big AP gap? It's not anything special. I've never seen anyone state a 1.3x AP advantage is anything significant.
You've actually made no effort to prove why it's negligible, I've never claimed it's a crazy difference only that it's going to be a notable factor in the fight. His instinctive reactions based on the description on his profile is very weak, it's barely a factor.That's because it is negligible. It's nothing crazy at all. Now if it was something like 1.6x or 1.7x, then that's when we're getting into territory where Theory will need to watch out for hits (even then, it's not like Ace is going to KO Theory in one punch. Far from it). Are you also forgetting the fact that Theory has Instinctive Reactions? On top of a skill advantage? Ace is going to struggle to land any meaningful hits
Ohh okay lol.I just meant like use his legs, wrap them around his neck, and flip him around (since he has greater LS)
Not saying he's more versatile, but I'm saying that he is versatile. Because of his height and weight difference, he can pull off more "stunts" than Theory, because he should be more nimble just due to his stature. But I wasn't saying that he's more versatile, I was just saying while Theory is in the middle of the move, Ace can force himself out because he's extremely small
I'm not even have any spite intention at all lel, my badProlly shouldn't say shit like this, makes it seem like you just want to spite WWE.
dude i saw that..This is literally Chris Jericho vs Tsukasa Part 2 lmfao.
Jericho won (he ended up being the co-winner of the tourney, too).dude i saw that..
i was following it at first but then i just unfollowed when it was going downhill..
it was such a nice matchup too
what was the result of the match?
What about those are overhyping??
He literally just listed the types of fighting styles Theory has fought against and defeated. Those look far more impressive than what I've seen for Ace so far.
Ace will struggle to land any meaningful hits? For his instinctive reaction that is quite bad and won't do much to make him dodge or make ace not land any meaningful hits... Like how is that not overhyping, his acting like it's observation haki when it's literally randomly instinct movementAre you also forgetting the fact that Theory has Instinctive Reactions? On top of a skill advantage? Ace is going to struggle to land any meaningful hits.
How is it not bad? He literally threw one punch randomly and got destroyed and lost... If it was good he would've been consistently be doing his moves via instinct instead of just randomly doing one movement
Bro, I grew up with WWE, what he is saying is DEFINITELY overhypingIt's baffling how many people are in denial just because it's WWE, when Random hasn't even mentioned anything crazy
They look far more impressive because of how he said it, I can do the same thing via statements but I don't, I show actually the feats of skill they do... Not kinda lie to make his skill better than it isHe literally just listed the types of fighting styles Theory has fought against and defeated. Those look far more impressive than what I've seen for Ace so far.
Also since you are using something like this, it's baffling how people will do anything to go against the things that are popular and especially the truthIt's baffling how many people are in denial just because it's WWE, when Random hasn't even mentioned anything crazy
Banjo vs WWE Wrestler tho....if only he doesn't have a f***ing large country durabilityWWE can never catch a break...
I just wanted to make cool ass matchups for my boi Theory lol.
That's....kinda uncalled, but as long it's not in personal way then i don't mind it lelI will still shit on any Dr. Stone supporter who tries to come at me, too lol.
I won't comment on the struggling to land any meaningful hits part, because that's not what I care about personally, nor was it the point of my comment.Ace will struggle to land any meaningful hits? For his instinctive reaction that is quite bad and won't do much to make him dodge or make ace not land any meaningful hits... Like how is that not overhyping, his acting like it's observation haki when it's literally randomly instinct movement
Maybe you should've been there for the CRTs lol.Bro, I grew up with WWE, what he is saying is DEFINITELY overhyping
I mean maybe? But you're yet to debunk anything he's said tmk.They look far more impressive because of how he said it, I can do the same thing via statements but I don't, I show actually the feats of skill they do... Not kinda lie to make his skill better than it is
Grow upAlso since you are using something like this, it's baffling how people will do anything to go against the things that are popular and especially the truth
Okay. I will admit that the statement "Ace will struggle landing meaningful hits" is a bit much. My bad. But I wasn't hyping Theory's IR to observation haki level lol, and by no means is Theory's IR "bad." Especially in this situation where Ace is pretty arrogant, when he thinks Theory is down for the count, Theory comes out of nowhere and hits him with a big offensive move.Ace will struggle to land any meaningful hits? For his instinctive reaction that is quite bad and won't do much to make him dodge or make ace not land any meaningful hits... Like how is that not overhyping, his acting like it's observation haki when it's literally randomly instinct movement
I'll admit I overhyped IR a bit, but the skill feats I wasn't overhyping whatsoever.Bro, I grew up with WWE, what he is saying is DEFINITELY overhyping
Um, no? Everything I said is 100% true. Stop downplaying.They look far more impressive because of how he said it, I can do the same thing via statements but I don't, I show actually the feats of skill they do... Not kinda lie to make his skill better than it is
I have been in some of them... And was literally the only one depending WWE in the thread where something was going to get rejected because of what I saw as bsMaybe you should've been there for the CRTs lol.
Or you can make one rn, and debunk all the evidences and proofs that he and pikaman found. Good luck with that.
Question, how the f do I debunk a vague ass statement in just saying martial arts techniques that he can do which then makes him more skilled in a fight because of it... That's like saying he's more skilled than Mike Tyson or something because he knows more martial artsI mean maybe? But you're yet to debunk anything he's said tmk.
F noGrow up
You tell me. You're the one claiming it's overhyped lolQuestion, how the f do I debunk a vague ass statement in just saying martial arts techniques that he can do which then makes him more skilled in a fight because of it... That's like saying he's more skilled than Mike Tyson or something because he knows more martial arts
F no
ME?????? DOWNPLAYING?????????!!!!!!? WHAT!!!!!Um, no? Everything I said is 100% true. Stop downplaying.
Which will only happen when he's knocked out/already been insanely hurt which at that point won't matterTheory comes out of nowhere and hits him with a big offensive move.
...Matt Riddle (the guy who knows and uses those martial arts in combat) literally taught Liv Morgan how to counter submission moves, as well as countering holds into your own. Liv was about to face a wrestler who has mixed martial arts experience, so Riddle taught Liv some moves to counter her opponents' martial arts techniques. That's more than enough.Question, how the f do I debunk a vague ass statement in just saying martial arts techniques that he can do which then makes him more skilled in a fight because of it... That's like saying he's more skilled than Mike Tyson or something because he knows more martial arts
That doesn't mean shit. You can claim you know 2 verses, but that doesn't mean you won't end up downplaying one of those verses at least once in your lifetime.Bro what? You know barley anything about one piece and talking about them like you know... I know both verses, there is literally NO reason for me to downplay
Uh...no? Theory is better at CQC than Ace, and a 1.3x advantage isn't much at all.Which will only happen when he's knocked out/already been insanely hurt which at that point won't matter