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For Reasons Above, aka, I agree with Random's arguments.
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Austin Theory vs Ace
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How about you agree to agree with me or am I just uncool
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For Reasons Above.
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How would this work against someone extremely small?
With how versatile and small Ace is, as soon as Theory lets go of Ace's legs for the drop, Ace can just wrap around his neck and potentially flip Theory around with his own greater LS, or just elbow him in the face and jump away.
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Just in case, i've called @KingTempest to come for nailed the coffin
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He literally can though lol. He deadass one shots them.
In fact, I believe there was a wrestler back in 80s or 90s named Skinner, who wrestled and killed Alligators on a regular basis. Even 12 foot long Alligators.
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Hmm? How is it not bad? He literally threw one punch randomly and got destroyed and lost... If it was good he would've been consistently be doing his moves via instinct instead of just randomly doing one movement
You are definitely overhyping,
Like what?
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And yeah, i feel that Theory get wanked so much here
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Honestly, those vote for Theory need to be on hold/removed until proper concensus has reached (and until Tempest come as well)
azontr
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I'm sorry daddy.How about you agree to agree with me or am I just uncool
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The second option is a no, considering how fast Theory does the ATL.
First one is a bit confusing to read, but I'll take your word for it.
Also, I'm not too sure how Ace is more versatile.
azontr
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Nobody needs to wait for shit lmao. Other supporters are arguing for Ace, Tempest is not a requirement for the debate to progress.
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What about those are overhyping??
He literally just listed the types of fighting styles Theory has fought against and defeated. Those look far more impressive than what I've seen for Ace so far.
It's baffling how many people are in denial just because it's WWE, when Random hasn't even mentioned anything crazy
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azontr
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Prolly shouldn't say shit like this, makes it seem like you just want to spite WWE.
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You didn't even watch the full match lol. This was a back and forth matchup.
So combining multiple forms of combat is wank? What are you trying to get at here? I was literally just summarizing skill feats, and how it's superior to Ace's skill feats.
******* THANK YOU! These are literally skill feats that I've showed legitimate proof for. Ace hasn't showed anything close to this.What about those are overhyping??
He literally just listed the types of fighting styles Theory has fought against and defeated. Those look far more impressive than what I've seen for Ace so far.
It's baffling how many people are in denial just because it's WWE, when Random hasn't even mentioned anything crazy
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I just meant like use his legs, wrap them around his neck, and flip him around (since he has greater LS)
Not saying he's more versatile, but I'm saying that he is versatile. Because of his height and weight difference, he can pull off more "stunts" than Theory, because he should be more nimble just due to his stature. But I wasn't saying that he's more versatile, I was just saying while Theory is in the middle of the move, Ace can force himself out because he's extremely small
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But at the same time it become so annoying to deal with tbh, even as a low-key WWE supporters these can reach the level of wankWhat about those are overhyping??
He literally just listed the types of fighting styles Theory has fought against and defeated. Those look far more impressive than what I've seen for Ace so far.
It's baffling how many people are in denial just because it's WWE, when Random hasn't even mentioned anything crazy
Johnny Test i can see why, but WWE? This became the level of Rakudai shennanigans
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The fact that azontr said this...
Eminiteable
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I'm talking about his endurance and Stamina here.
You've actually made no effort to prove why it's negligible, I've never claimed it's a crazy difference only that it's going to be a notable factor in the fight. His instinctive reactions based on the description on his profile is very weak, it's barely a factor.
Ace won't struggle to land meaningful hits, if necessary he could grab Austin and then trap him (who will be powerless to do anything about it).
Regarding the finisher; nothing you've brought up proves he can come close to knocking out someone with Ace's endurance and durability.
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Ohh okay lol.
Yeah. Ace can potentially do that. But I will say that with the finisher Theory has, he usually tries to damage/incap his opponent enough to the point he can't counter the move.
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I'm not even have any spite intention at all lel, my bad
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WWE can never catch a break...
I just wanted to make cool ass matchups for my boi Theory lol.
I just wanted to make cool ass matchups for my boi Theory lol.
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This is literally Chris Jericho vs Tsukasa Part 2 lmfao.
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I think I'll go incon also.
I was going to vote for Theory, but Emin pointed out Ace's stamina and endurance(?) advantage that should allow him to tough through a good amount of big boy damage. Theory definitely has the advantage in CQC. Unless anybody has anything else except of what has been mentioned, then it's just pure copium. I just don't think it's enough to put Ace down for good.
I was going to vote for Theory, but Emin pointed out Ace's stamina and endurance(?) advantage that should allow him to tough through a good amount of big boy damage. Theory definitely has the advantage in CQC. Unless anybody has anything else except of what has been mentioned, then it's just pure copium. I just don't think it's enough to put Ace down for good.
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dude i saw that..
i was following it at first but then i just unfollowed when it was going downhill..
it was such a nice matchup too
what was the result of the match?
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Jericho won (he ended up being the co-winner of the tourney, too).dude i saw that..
i was following it at first but then i just unfollowed when it was going downhill..
it was such a nice matchup too
what was the result of the match?
I will still shit on any Dr. Stone supporter who tries to come at me, too lol.
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Ace will struggle to land any meaningful hits? For his instinctive reaction that is quite bad and won't do much to make him dodge or make ace not land any meaningful hits... Like how is that not overhyping, his acting like it's observation haki when it's literally randomly instinct movement
Bro, I grew up with WWE, what he is saying is DEFINITELY overhypingIt's baffling how many people are in denial just because it's WWE, when Random hasn't even mentioned anything crazy
They look far more impressive because of how he said it, I can do the same thing via statements but I don't, I show actually the feats of skill they do... Not kinda lie to make his skill better than it is
Also since you are using something like this, it's baffling how people will do anything to go against the things that are popular and especially the truthIt's baffling how many people are in denial just because it's WWE, when Random hasn't even mentioned anything crazy
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Banjo vs WWE Wrestler tho....if only he doesn't have a f***ing large country durability
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That's....kinda uncalled, but as long it's not in personal way then i don't mind it lel
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I won't comment on the struggling to land any meaningful hits part, because that's not what I care about personally, nor was it the point of my comment.
Maybe you should've been there for the CRTs lol.
Or you can make one rn, and debunk all the evidences and proofs that he and pikaman found. Good luck with that.
I mean maybe? But you're yet to debunk anything he's said tmk.
Grow upAlso since you are using something like this, it's baffling how people will do anything to go against the things that are popular and especially the truth
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Okay. I will admit that the statement "Ace will struggle landing meaningful hits" is a bit much. My bad. But I wasn't hyping Theory's IR to observation haki level lol, and by no means is Theory's IR "bad." Especially in this situation where Ace is pretty arrogant, when he thinks Theory is down for the count, Theory comes out of nowhere and hits him with a big offensive move.
I'll admit I overhyped IR a bit, but the skill feats I wasn't overhyping whatsoever.
Um, no? Everything I said is 100% true. Stop downplaying.
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I have been in some of them... And was literally the only one depending WWE in the thread where something was going to get rejected because of what I saw as bs
Question, how the f do I debunk a vague ass statement in just saying martial arts techniques that he can do which then makes him more skilled in a fight because of it... That's like saying he's more skilled than Mike Tyson or something because he knows more martial arts
F no
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ME?????? DOWNPLAYING?????????!!!!!!? WHAT!!!!!
That's all I need to hear...
Bro what? You know barley anything about one piece and talking about them like you know... I know both verses, there is literally NO reason for me to downplay
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Which will only happen when he's knocked out/already been insanely hurt which at that point won't matter
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That downplaying statement tho... Holy, that is something I would actually go insane for, if someone else said it or something
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...Matt Riddle (the guy who knows and uses those martial arts in combat) literally taught Liv Morgan how to counter submission moves, as well as countering holds into your own. Liv was about to face a wrestler who has mixed martial arts experience, so Riddle taught Liv some moves to counter her opponents' martial arts techniques. That's more than enough.
That doesn't mean shit. You can claim you know 2 verses, but that doesn't mean you won't end up downplaying one of those verses at least once in your lifetime.
Lets say I know Naruto and Dragon Ball. Cool, but that doesn't mean I won't ever downplay and/or wank one of those verses.
Uh...no? Theory is better at CQC than Ace, and a 1.3x advantage isn't much at all.
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@MonkeyOfLife you have still yet to prove that these feats are "overhyped."
If you think they are overhyped, then make a CRT about it. I dare you.
If you think they are overhyped, then make a CRT about it. I dare you.
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