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Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou Discussion Thread 2

「……The accurate time axis has to be searched through the different time axis of that time, so it’s too hard for Kaori. Impossible. You’ll fail anyway. That’s why don’t force yourself. Because I’ll do it.」

「Those are one and even two words too many! If you’re picking a fight then I’ll take it up you know!?」

Should it be called “empty state of mind provocation (limited to Kaori)” already?

Kaori was about to jump Yue but Shizuku held her back from behind with an exasperated face. Meanwhile Yue purposefully made a sound 「Muuu~n」. She was really making a show that she was focusing to knead her magic power and searching for the time axis.

Of course, Yue had replayed the correct time axis twice before this. She had already grasped the feeling, so actually she could do it in an instant
. ch 502
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She can show a past replay from before the time was sychronize with Hajime's world.
 
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Just for fun

If Arifureta characters were servants in Fate, which class you think they'll have ?
 
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EL_xWatcher1234x said:
If Arifureta characters were servants in Fate, which class you think they'll have ?
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Hajime: Archer. Other possible class: Gunner, Rider, Caster,
Yue: Caster. Other possible class: Ruler
Shea: Berserker. Other possible class: Assassin
Tio: Rider. Other possible class: Ruler, Shielder
Kaori: Caster. Other possible class: Saber, Ruler
Shizuku: Saber
Aiko: Caster
Kouki: Saber
Kousuke: Assassin
Suzu: Caster
Ryotarou: Berserker
Eri: Pretender. Other possible class: Caster
Ehit: Foreigner. Other possible class: Ruler, Pretender
Apostles: Saber. Other possible class: Assassin
Freid: Rider

Miledi: Caster
Oscar: Caster
Naiz: Ruler. Other possible class: Saber
Meiru: Saber. Other possible class: Lancer, Caster
Laus: Ruler
Vandree: Berserker
Lyutillis: Caster. Other possible class: Rider
Badd: Lancer
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
Hajime: Archer. Other possible class: Gunner, Rider, Caster,
Yue: Caster. Other possible class: Ruler
Shea: Berserker. Other possible class: Assassin
Tio: Rider. Other possible class: Ruler, Shielder
Kaori: Caster. Other possible class: Saber, Ruler
Shizuku: Saber
Aiko: Caster
Kouki: Saber
Kousuke: Assassin
Suzu: Caster
Ryotarou: Berserker
Eri: Pretender. Other possible class: Caster
Ehit: Foreigner. Other possible class: Ruler, Pretender
Apostles: Saber. Other possible class: Assassin
Freid: Rider

Miledi: Caster
Oscar: Caster
Naiz: Ruler. Other possible class: Saber
Meiru: Saber. Other possible class: Lancer, Caster
Laus: Ruler
Vandree: Berserker
Lyutillis: Caster. Other possible class: Rider
Badd: Lancer
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Actually, thinking about it Oscar main class would probably be Archer since he throws weapons like the two most famous archers.

Edit: Also, Vandree main class would probably be Rider
 
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Hajime qualify for almost all of them.
Archer: long range weapons
Lancer: his first weapon was a spear drill and he created an A.M. lance to fight Ehit
Rider: his vehicles and he tamed Tio.
Assasin: he taught the Hauria clan and he improved his stealth in Orcus labyrinth.
Avenger: before he met Yue.
Foreigner: he is kind of a glitch and his potentials are unknown.
Shielder: the most used artifact.
Gunner: obvious

Kouki: Possibly Saver

Yue:
Funny Vamp (ファニーヴァンプ, Fanī Vanpu?, localized as "Temptress") is an Extra Servant Class. It is said to be the proper class of Arcueid Brunestud if given the status of a Servant. When summoned under the Class, she is a "poisonous woman"Vamp (毒婦ヴァンプ, DokufuVanpu?), able to easily destroy a man. She is a "Blood Drinker that drains the life from her opponent," "Life Eater that consumes her foe's vitality," and a "Financial Crisis where electronic trading decimates an entire nation's economy."
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Expectro2000xxx said:
Hajime: Archer. Other possible class: Gunner, Rider, Caster,
Yue: Caster. Other possible class: Ruler
Shea: Berserker. Other possible class: Assassin
Tio: Rider. Other possible class: Ruler, Shielder
Kaori: Caster. Other possible class: Saber, Ruler
Shizuku: Saber
Aiko: Caster
Kouki: Saber
Kousuke: Assassin
Suzu: Caster
Ryotarou: Berserker
Eri: Pretender. Other possible class: Caster
Ehit: Foreigner. Other possible class: Ruler, Pretender
Apostles: Saber. Other possible class: Assassin
Freid: Rider

Miledi: Caster
Oscar: Caster
Naiz: Ruler. Other possible class: Saber
Meiru: Saber. Other possible class: Lancer, Caster
Laus: Ruler
Vandree: Berserker
Lyutillis: Caster. Other possible class: Rider
Badd: Lancer
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Oh I was using the classic classes...I'd didn't think about the other ones...this is pretty spot on
 
What is this ?
「Mumu-, Shia-oneechan is rapidly approaching!」

「My my, you can feel that, Myuu?」

Remia-san goggled at the surrounding. She couldn’t Shia anywhere.

Arogan finally fell on his knee inside the past replay. The next blow would land a direct hit. His expression was giving such graphic account.

「It feels like, Kyupiiiiiiinn around Myuu’s forehead, like that? It wasn’t long ago, Myuu became able to feel it when papa and Yue-oneechan and others approach nano!」

「Myuu, you, since when you became a Newt*pe……」

His daughter had developed a new, and also strange special technique before anyone realized. Was it a feat that was enabled by her family love?

「……No, but, Myuu? This is a past projection so sign like that is──」

『SHAORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!』

No, she really came! Hajime and others made such tsukkomi inside their hearts. Well, from the flow of events Arogan should be splattered if Shia didn’t come at this timing, so in a sense the arrival could be predicted based on meta knowledge…… Ch 503
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Refenrence to Newtype from Gundam, they're humans with a sixth sense.
 
Can Hajime use magic in his transcendent state ?
From the description it should give an average affinity for magic, right ?
 
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EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Can Hajime use magic in his transcendent state ?
From the description it should give an average affinity for magic, right ?
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He can use normal magic like a normal person, but since that isn't much compared his normal transmute can do, as well as the fact that this average affinity for magic likely don't even include ancient magic, that's just useless for him.
 
Possible Life manipulation

1) Aiko creating trent soldiers

2)Tio creating a new species from her soul and dead monsters


Another example is the planet's energy
「Hajime-sama, the unconverted energy is getting discharged with tremendous force! No, this is, the energy is being absorbed? This is completely an intervention from outside the system!!」

G10 was smoking because of its electronic warfare with Mother that it did with the preparedness to die. It raised its voice with bewilderment and agitation.

It couldn’t be helped.

After all the holy land was enveloped in a beautiful white light.

Countless lines of light were spreading like cracks on the ground with the sacred tree at the center. The whole holy land was shining because of that and there was even faint particles of light that were starting to float to the air.

And the greatest change of all was――the sacred tree itself.

Greenery could be seen at the tip of its withered branch. Fresh leaves were growing out one after another. They were spreading out largely and powerfully. The trunk that was looking very lacking in vitality before this was visibly recovering its moisture.

Like that, the sacred tree completely recovered its original fresh green appearance. Right after that, a surge of light was unleashed to the world. The surge of light was followed by many more surges of lights. If this phenomenon could be observed from space, it would be clear to see that those surges were rushing through the whole planet. Furthermore there were even lines of light that were spreading throughout the land until beyond the horizon in an instant.

It was truly the scene of the breathe of life being breathed back into this planet. ch 380
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The planet was revived

This infinite energy came from Grasp GloriaYes, Hajime didn’t convert the Star Energy into magic power. In the first place they were in a race against time, and it was Kousuke who infiltrated inside the sacred tree. There was no way he was able to do something like writing a program to convert Star Energy into magic power on the spot. Star Energy was also an unknown energy for G10 too. It only learned about the energy’s existence just now.That was why, there was a need to write a program beforehand using a type of energy that they had in hand. Kousuke only plugged up the data chip so after that the system could automatically convert the energy.


Then, what was this energy that became the base for the magic power.

The answer was one.

「Grasp GloriaPlanet in hand that is rotating for perpetuity. I imitated a certain world to make this――a perpetual motion machine.」

「Perpetual motion machine……absurd, even for Harden……that was a dream that was beyond his grasp……」

At the sky world where dragon and human coexisted――Hajime created the orb of sky dragon power. Until now Hajime was unable to make use of the sky dragon power that was overflowing infinitely from it but……

The orb that was entrusted to Kousuke had its energy converted by the Element Arrangement Equal Conversion System and brought inexhaustible magic power for Hajime.

「Looks like this damn sacred tree also took advantage of that. This guy must be really starving.」

In other words, it was like that. The sacred tree absorbed the infinite energy that was flowing from Grasp Gloria and accomplished its revival. And then that also meant the revival of this world.

「Hahah, so the magic power dispersion effect is also caused by the world-wide shortage of energy huh.」ch 380
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This also prove that the great trees can process different energy.


The great trees are what connect the worlds
「You don’t know, right? There are countless worlds, and most likely every world has a sacred tree of their own. The worlds are connected with this thing as the center.」

Hajime started thinking like that since that time when he got transported to hell. He hallucinated a great tree towering high at the mysterious clearing existing deep inside a forest in Britain. It made Hajime harbored a quess, that perhaps a great tree existed in all worlds and the worlds were fundamentally connected? ch 380
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After reviving the tree
The two made a small talk that would make Shizuku drew out her katana is she heard. It was at that instant,

――Aah, a miracle! To think that the worlds are connected once more! (Aularodde's voice)

A voice resounded directly inside the brain like that.

Hajime’s movement froze. Kouki’s movement also froze. Kousuke was going「Eh? Eh?」 while looking around in bewilderment.

The sacred tree instantly started shining.

Hajime and Kouki looked at each other. The instantly reached an understanding with each other.

「I won’t let you get away dammit-」

「Don’t screw with me-. You shitty hero! Aby Barrier!!」ch 381
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In I Love Isekai(16 and 40 ), there is a Space Magic feats simillar to this: Plot Manipulation (Can interact with speech bubbles.[105] Can skip comic book panels and pages.[106] and Calendar Man with his powers could skip panels. Exists outside the "plot" and can interact with it[100]) (From Mister_Mxyzptlk's profile). We can also see them watching the anime in the first panel of chapter 39 and existing outside the panels in chapter 40.

From previous feats we can obviously see that immersion, plot manipulation and Subjective Reality fall under the domain of Space Magic.What do you think ?
 
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EL_xWatcher1234x said:
When Hajime used Soul Magic to enslave the empire, was that Law manipulation ?

Just asking if we could add it.
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He already has law manip from ancient magic so don't think there is really a need to add anything new, especially since the thing is already mentioned in the profile.

I think it falls more in the territory of curse manip since it they die if they do X thing (go against the Haulia), which something common with curses in fiction (that they activate certain effect after an specific condition is meet). Curse manip is also something that we already acknowledge Spirit Magic can do (from its own feats and be above dark magic) so nothing really new there.
 
I remember Alfard and Hajime saying that blood is connected to the soul, this explain why this curse could follow the next generation.

Tio's spells
Dragon Queen's Edict: A spell combination of spirit and metamorphosis magic which transform the target in one of her black dragon familiars.
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Dragon Queen's Call: A spell combination of spirit and metamorphosis magic in which Tio use as medium flesh and blood to turn corpses in part of her dragon army, this is possible do to Tio analyzing her own genetics enough to replicate pseudo-dragon souls with spirit magic, then she combine this with her transformation metamorphosis magic to give the corpses artificial life and turn them into dragons.
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Chapter 481
Tio and other members of dragon race could transform into dragon was because they as a race had “dragonification factor” mixed into their soul.

That story was something that Hajime and Tio had confirmed between them during the time before the final battle in Tortus, when Tio was learning how to transform other races into black dragon as her new magic.

After all, that magic worked by Tio duplicating her “dragon factor” and inserting it into the target.

「Not to mention, as the result of you continuously enduring the interference of the “Dragon”, you became able to sense your “dragon’s factor” even stronger than before──no, you became able to sense “dragon’s factor” even in other people. Anyone else would also easily reach the same idea if they know that.」
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How do soul and body work ?
 
New chapter is out

Guess who ?
──First Workshop
(Hajime no Koubou)

It would be read like that if it was translated to Japanese. The letters were formed by expressly welding metal rods on an iron plate, so it was very hard to read.

Did the creator has a lot of emotional attachment to that name?

It absolutely wouldn’t break or fall off. That was how it was. It felt like there was such firm will from it.

The owner of such workshop was actually very famous in various senses.

The fame came from creating various practical mechanical products, or perhaps from restoring a machine back to normal. But not only that, the person was also famous for tending to forget even sleeping or eating once they shut themselves inside the workshop, that someone apparently would often come bringing food or checking the owner’s condition. ch 504
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Does apostlification influence the soul ?

From the series, it seem that the difference between hybrid and Kaori is that their mana color has changed while Kaori's remain purple. If it does, then this could be another feat of resistance to soul manipulation for Kouki.

There is cases where mana color has to do with the body like in the case of a monster hybrid, while chracters without body like Ehit and Miledi still have it.

What define the mana color, soul or body ?
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Can we use BH radius to upgrade some charaters ?
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Changing our Minimum Radius for a 5-A Black Hole

A recent calc I made got me to realize this, but our chart for estimating the AP of a black hole of a certain radius was not updated to account for our change to 5-A's baseline from 2.7 yottatons to 3.8 yottatons - based on the GBE of Uranus. So, I'd like to update that now. I'll do this by...
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Keep in mind that there is different types of BH spells. A spell condense everything at the center and another spell that conpletly erase the target.


And we Have Miledi creating a BH that absorbed an explosion that could destroy Tortus(likely bigger than Earth ).
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Who should possibly scale to these calcs?
 
From chapter 505

:alien: Aliens and Star Wars
「It was a year ago. Actually──alien attacked.」

「What?」

Hajime-san unconsciously asked back. He dug up his ear hole thinking whether he had just misheard something. It looked like there was nothing plugging his ear. Yue and others were also looking dazed from the too abrupt words that sounded like a gag.

And so, one more time. More clearly than before.

「Alien came attacking here.」

「alien came attacking here」

Apparently he wasn’t mishearing. It was just something so offbeat. It was no wonder that Hajime spoke back like a parrot parroting words.

But, G10 looked and sounded totally serious. And then she gave a brief report. As though to deal an additional blow on Hajime’s mind.

「We are alien. They introduced themselves like that, so there is no doubt.」

「we are alien……」

「After many twists and turns battle broke at the outer space. It was space war.」

「space war……」

「Please be at ease. We won.」

「so you won」

Hajime and G10 looked at each other. G10-san felt like she wanted to be praised.
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