Arceus vs Cronus

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Now that Arceus has gotten an upgrade to solid 2-B this fight can be redone and is completely even and is gonna be close. In this fight there are of course some rules.

-Speed Equalized of course.

-Both Bloodlusted

-Arceus CANNOT summon his Creation Trio servants to aid him. Would be unfair.

FIGHT!!!

Arceus: 8

Cronus: 9

Draw: 1

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Arceus via AP advantage and better versatility me-thinks.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And we've gotten our first vote.

 

[RadicalMrR]

I'll keep my eye on this match.

 

[KuroSleepyAsh]

Arceus for Bruce the batmans reason

 

[KazarianFahs]

Arceus for being able to do all the things cronus can(in a way) and then some

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

^You'll have to explain those powers. Which ones?

 

[KazarianFahs]

first are all your generic time and space and reality related warping.(GAH i have written this so many times i don't even wanna comment on arceus's pages anymore) The thing with arceus is,well his conceptual manipulation,arceus can manipulate virtually all scientific and abstact concepts that are known to mankind(well in pokeverse) since he created them from scratch anyways,so not only this gives arceus access to any and all powers he can think of,he can cut off the concepts his enemies use altogether,but then he himself isn't affected by them since he existed before and without them anyway.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Edited the topics. Added Pokemon and Saint Seiya so people could see it.

You're welcome Dragon.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Edited the topics. Added Pokemon and Saint Seiya so people could see it.
You're welcome Dragon.

Ah thanks man.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

No problem.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Arceus due to reasons above.

Also how dare you Dragon the creation trio are more than just servants. THEY HAVE LIVES!!!! xD

 

[BruceTheBatman]

LOL

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I bet Dialga and Palkia like to go down to the Dragon mall and spend some TIME together in a fun, localized SPACE once and a while to get out of work xD

But they dont invite Giratina cuz........violence :3

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Arceus due to reasons above.
Also how dare you Dragon the creation trio are more than just servants. THEY HAVE LIVES!!!! xD

It's either Servants or Slaves Anime. Pick one

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I choose neither as our almighty poke gods deserve freedom!

Anyway's, back to the topic, when you say summon do you mean Arceus cant create more Creation Trio members?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Yes.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Kk got it. But my vote still goes to Arceus for the other reasons.

 

[PaChi2]

Arceus for reasons above.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Cronus. He is far more haxed than Arceus and his Megas Drepanon can one-shot him. Cronus can also manipulate both Causality and Fate.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Now this can be a true debate.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Cronus. He is far more haxed than Arceus and his Megas Drepanon can one-shot him. Cronus can also manipulate both Causality and Fate.

Pretty sure Arceus can do the same, also conceptual manipultion>>>>>>both.

 

[Talonmask]

If Arceus is serious and completely bloodlusted, he might just erase Cronus' will right off the bat.

I will abstain however, because I don't know a whole lot about Cronus.

 

[DarkLK]

ArÐüeus abilities look like an useless shit in the battle against an equal opponent.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

ArÐüeus abilities look like an useless shit in the battle against an equal opponent.

They are not equal, Arceus is possibly higher than 2-B while Cronus is just a regular 2-B and Arceus seems to have the superior solid stats. What defense does Cronus have for, let's say, Arceus's conceptual manipulation?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Impyling Cronus doesn't have Conceptual Manipulation either as he controls the concept of time and Pontos who is ridiculously below him can control the flow of fate.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Also, one hit from the Megas Drepanon and Arceus' particles are rewinded back in time until they don't exist anymore.

 

[DarkLK]

Oh please. Cronus perceives more than three dimensions of space and going to destroy all the space and time. And all gods are acausal.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Oh please. Cronus perceives more than three dimensions of space and going to destroy all the space and time. And all gods are acausal.

What?

 

[Cropfist]

Cronus for reasons above.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Impyling Cronus doesn't have Conceptual Manipulation either as he controls the concept of time and Pontos who is ridiculously below him can control the flow of fate.

Since when has cronus controlled the concept of time. I thought that was Chronos.

 

[Tivanenk]

Cronus, and quite easily. His Megas Drepanon ignores any distance between him and his target and one shots Arceus completely due to rewinding him back to non-existence. Most of the stuff that Arceus supporters have listed is stuff that either Cronus has or is not a problem for him.

 

[LordAizenSama]

I say Cronus due to Tiva's and Matts reasons

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Cronus, and quite easily. His Megas Drepanon ignores any distance between him and his target and one shots Arceus completely due to rewinding him back to non-existence. Most of the stuff that Arceus supporters have listed is stuff that either Cronus has or is not a problem for him.

I don't know whether speed equalization equates to this but Arceus can dodge that since normally he has infinite speed. Or can he?

 

[DontTalk]

Conceptual creation isn't all that impressive for fighting purpose, IMO. Manipulating or destroying pre-existing is far more impressive.

All in all I give it to Cronus, since Arceus use of his abilities is usually rather small, while Cronus listed move set seems more focused on effective use.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also Precog may help.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Cronus perceives time 4th Dimensionally up until the present.

Do you guys want the scan?

Also, all Tier 2 SS Gods are Acausal and can Manipulate Causality, and Cronus vastly outclasses Pontos who can manipulate the flow of fate, and Cronus can manipulate fate even in his 3-sealed Form.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

hmmmm. Well unless arceus gets acausality he's boned here. (Can't unequalized speed since that would be foul play and make this not count due to speed blitz...)

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Well dont blame me, its not listed on his profile and controlling the concept of time means nothing to Arceus who created and controls a being who IS the concept of time.

>Rewind time

Um what? Arceus isnt bound by the concept of time and if thats the case then he can just destroy or manipulate the concept of it in general to work for him so that Cronus cant rewind him back to Non-existence.

To be perfectly honest Arceus shouldnt even be eraseable. He was born in total nothingness before creating the verse so I dont see how a being like that can get erased period. The only thing Mega Drepanon could do is just send Arceus back to the point of non-existence of nothing further.

 

[Promestein]

Yeah, I gotta go with Cronus for all the above reasons.