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Anos is Back, and so are Maou Gakuin Downgrades
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Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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That's only for accepting threads, not rejecting them. The discussion rules also note you shouldn't make an upgrade for a previously rejected topic so :v
Georredannea15
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Dude... It's just like the concepts inside people in GoW are Type 1 just because they're governing them... No that's definitely Type 3. If you have a problem, talk to DT or tag a staff. Controlling the reality of a person/structure is not the same as Controlling an entire plane of reality
Georredannea15
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This is for Tier 1. 2 staff is sufficient for such hax revisions.
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No, iirc that thread didn't got concluded because supporters decided to close it .
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It needs ya, I still don't know where she got the idea that it was rejected till now.
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TheGreatJedi13
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And the thread is about rejecting.
So to get the rejection to be accepted you need 3 votes? Or am I wrong?
EldemadeDityjon
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It wasn't rejected either. It was closed. Fuji should read the thread properly
Georredannea15
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At least 3 for Tier 1, but 2 staff is usually sufficient for hax revisions like this.
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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You are wrong, yes. Because the standards about staff input only apply to accepting threads, rather than rejecting them. We have similar standards for the grace period (where a thread can be closed less than 48 hours after posting if it's overwhelmingly rejected).
That thread went on for several days and was never accepted, and had more disagreements than agreements. This isn't complicated.
Glass and Planck disagreed, Dereck agreed. That is 2 to 1. It was rejected.
EldemadeDityjon
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This thread has 1 agree and no Disagree from staff which was created after the thread you linked yeah crazy how you tried to brush it off.
Edit: My bad Glass Disagreed with no reason so couldn't see his disagreement.
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Georredannea15
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But there's nothing to discuss about it. 2 staff were refusing, that's basically enough.
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CAN WE ******* FOCUS ON THIS CRT PLEASE!?
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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I'd rather we get the obvious rule violation out of the way first, seeing as MG supporters are lying about staff votes and applying upgrades that were entirely rejected.
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Then why don't you go back to the RVR thread and sort that out?
EldemadeDityjon
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I would rather consider the opinion of the guy(staff) who explains better and disagrees instead of saying I disagree because I am a staff.
Darth literally explained why it is type 1 concepts and glass was literally shot down and he himself started still arguing with Tatsumi because he couldn't actually give a refute properly great.
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Are y'all really saying staff votes don't matter because you don't want them to matter 
Godsatoshi23
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Are you talking about your source downgrade thread?
EldemadeDityjon
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I am talking about staff only no one else. Darth is a staff who agreed with CM type 1 source with proper explanation and glass Disagree without a reasonAre y'all really saying staff votes don't matter because you don't want them to matter
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Based isn't it?Are y'all really saying staff votes don't matter because you don't want them to matter
Georredannea15
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Elde, the problem was that not only Glass, Planck also disagreed. Which makes downgrade sense to me, especially after the statements made by DT.
EldemadeDityjon
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Plank wasn't even participated in second thread. It was glass and Darth only and Glass didn't give a reason where Darth did.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/upgra...type-1-concept-again-pt-2.151092/post-5583677
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You really have to read DT statements clearly about what he said regarding CM
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Which is still a disagreement, so RIP.
That, and the two type 1 upgrades which were never accepted.
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About your thread it was based on that the source doesn't gover all of reality but seeing that was not necessary in our standards, doesn't it make it invalid ? Or we can still consider something which is not even in our standards requirements?
As I saw leaving Dark every one agreed because it doesn't govern all of reality and so what tatsumi used right now doesn't got rejected at all (atleast logically) also dark said it can be type 2 . if source can govern all the things within its influence (which it does) and he explained clearly.
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Which... doesn't change the fact that all of that logic was attempted, and explicitly rejected multiple times.
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Brooo just indirectly cause rvr clutter
Also ya'll keep arguing about voted this voted that. Instead of addressing the whole crux. Of the argument. Anything accepted can be changed just because it got changed once doesn't mean it is now infallible and should be taken as immutable truth. Jfc instead of arguing back and forth and baiting each other to admit things that at best will only give you a slap on the wrist you guys should just call out more staff than overly relying on the same staff from the last crt. Clearly there is an impasse and as such more votes to properly weigh in is required.
Rushing this whole 3 votes this 3 votes that is only inciting further threads like this to be made.
Finalize your argument and compile it in one post and do not argue back just answer what is the contention once and if they replied with the same argument leave it as that.
Then call staff to evaluate and if they ask for more info then provide
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So your logic is greater than what our wiki standards consider?
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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It's not my logic though, it's the logic of the staff members. You know, the ones who decide what gets accepted.
Georredannea15
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No, in order to be Type 2/1, it must include or affect the entire plane of reality. It is only Type 3 if it only affects the reality of the structure or person to which it is attached.
Godsatoshi23
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Well, I know but now you know that the logic was wrong and instead of reporting someone, don't you think it should be more wise to correct it or don't use it at all because the reason are completely different now.
Godsatoshi23
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No, DT said individual concept can also be type 1/2.
Georredannea15
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It could be. But for this, it must be able to affect the all entire plane of reality. It is not Type 1/2 if it only affects the reality of the person it is attached to.
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Type 1 concepts are specifically independent of reality, so dunno why it matters, besides, reality can be anything. It doesn't have any specific definition.
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If the logic was wrong then why did staff overwhelmingly agree with it?
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