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Anos is Back, and so are Maou Gakuin Downgrades

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If the logic was wrong then why did staff overwhelmingly agree with it? 🗿
Because the staff you called were not knowledgeable on this particular case. just see the dark explanation but even after that you guys were arguing with the same statement about the whole reality stuff on the other upgrade thread.
 
Type 1 concepts are specifically independent of reality, so dunno why it matters, besides, reality can be anything. It doesn't have any specific definition.
These concepts are assumed to be Type 3 by default if the statements and contexts don't confirm that it is a whole system of reality or express what kind of reality it is.
 
Because the staff you called were not knowledgeable on this particular case. just see the dark explanation but even after that you guys were arguing with the same statement about the whole reality stuff on the other upgrade thread.
That doesn't discredit their vote, and to say otherwise is just straight up vote manipulation.
A upgrade, downgrade happens all the time, that doesn't necessarily credit or discredit authentication of particular scan or argument. If it wasn't wrong then it being on profile barely matters, a new crt can be made to change it, like this one.
Then that CRT needs to have new information, because you can't just spam upgrades every time your previous upgrade fails. The latest upgrade attempt has brought no new information, so it should be disregarded.
 
For example, the concept of Death, this concept should include all death events in the all entire reality plane. Otherwise it wouldn't be a Type 1/2.
Death is single thing. What do you mean by all of death? Besides, it doesn't answer my question that if Type 1 concepts aren't dependent on the reality or object it governs, then why it matters if the object is one or none at all?
 
What is reality?
Man, "reality" is changeable. The reality that you depend on, that is, the reality that belongs to you, does not affect the reality of other people and the universe. It's spesific reality. That's context of Type 3.

But the reality at the universal level affects the reality of all of us.

Like the example I gave in the concept of death, if it covers and affects a whole plane of reality, it is Type 2/1. But if that's not the case, just type 3.
 
Man, "reality" is changeable. The reality that you depend on, that is, the reality that belongs to you, does not affect the reality of other people and the universe. It's spesific reality. That's context of Type 3.
Then Type 1/2 concepts must govern all of cosmology and if not then it's Type 3?
But the reality at the universal level affects the reality of all of us.
There can be a multiverse then. Hence not all of reality.

Like the example I gave in the concept of death, if it covers and affects a whole plane of reality, it is Type 2/1. But if that's not the case, just type 3.
The standards doesn't mention planes, can you site sources from where you found this definition of reality?
 
Death is single thing. What do you mean by all of death?
In other words, it is like the "death concept", which includes all deaths on the plane of reality.

Another example is that the concept of a door can encompass and affect all kinds of doors on a whole plane of reality.

Or as the concept of circle includes all circles on the plane of reality.
 
In other words, it is like the "death concept", which includes all deaths on the plane of reality.

Another example is that the concept of a door can encompass and affect all kinds of doors on a whole plane of reality.

Or as the concept of circle includes all circles on the plane of reality.
What if there is no door at all? Will Type 1 concept become type 3?
 
Then Type 1/2 concepts must govern all of cosmology and if not then it's Type 3?

There can be a multiverse then. Hence not all of reality.


The standards doesn't mention planes, can you site sources from where you found this definition of reality?
Dude, can you take a look at the " concept of flat" example on the wiki.
 
If there is no door, then there is no concept of door. But what does that have to do with this topic?
Type 1 concepts are literally independent of everything it governs, regardless if there is a door or not, it wouldn't matter for type 1 concepts. Governs all of reality only stands upto the specific area the said concept governs. If all of reality that concepts governs is single object then that's that, if there is evidence that it has reasons to be equated to Type 1/2 concepts (creating more objects/participants will fall under same concept) then it's Universal concept, take it concept of itachi or goku or Anos, all of it wouldn't be any different.
 
Type 1 concepts are literally independent of everything it governs, regardless if there is a door or not, it wouldn't matter for type 1 concepts. Governs all of reality only stands upto the specific area the said concept governs. If all of reality that concepts governs is single object then that's that, if there is evidence that it has reasons to be equated to Type 1/2 concepts (creating more objects/participants will fall under same concept) then it's Universal concept, take it concept of itachi or goku or Anos, all of it wouldn't be any different.
Yes, but there is no such event here. 😁

Here the source alone is an individual concept and governs only the reality of the person in which it exists.
 
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