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Always angry punch guy Vs Sometimes angry punch girl

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Doomslayer Vs Yang

Doomslayer is >= 4.2616919112e+13 Joules, while Yang is >>>29.12 Kilotons (oneshot difference).

This means >>>2.86x AP advantage for Yang (using Doomslayer's mid end)

Doomslayer has access to berserk and quad damage but no other power ups​


Doomslayer: 1

Yang: 1
 
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if you say 42600727272727,27J is Marine's AP, then you give him a 4x amp buff via item, his AP is 170402909090909,1J, or 40,73 Kilotons... which means a ~1,4x Marine advantage...

via Marine being (i think obviously) more armed and more skilled than her, she not resisting elec manip or paralysis and Marine being able to Berserk
if it isn't a stomp, surely Marine FRA
 
if you say 42600727272727,27J is Marine's AP, then you give him a 4x amp buff via item, his AP is 170402909090909,1J, or 40,73 Kilotons... which means a ~1,4x Marine advantage...
Marine having Quad Damage and Berserk would help, but its only a temporary powerup, and even then Yang's aura would be blocking damage from his attacks for a good while all while her semblance absorbs the energy of his attacks and then doubles everything she gets hit with to amp her own power to well beyond being able to oneshot him with a single punch
via Marine being (i think obviously) more armed and more skilled than her,
If this is their 7-C versions then there is in no way, shape, or form that Doomslayer is more skilled than Yang. I'd be happy to post the term paper explaining the skill feats in RWBY but its been discussed so much that i thought people knew the gist of it by now lol
she not resisting elec manip or paralysis and Marine being able to Berserk
Slayer doesnt have access to those due to Berserk, which limits him to only using melee attacks
 
Wouldn't Doomslayer's 1.4x advantage be smaller due to Yang being a oneshot above her own value?
 
If this is their 7-C versions then there is in no way, shape, or form that Doomslayer is more skilled than Yang. I'd be happy to post the term paper explaining the skill feats in RWBY but its been discussed so much that i thought people knew the gist of it by now lol
Tf no way she is more skilled than slayer lol.
 
this is 2016 doomguy, so yes he did do that.
He definitely doesnt, where is the proof that he was alive for billions of years? And for the record, "Eons" is not automatically billions of years, that would make him older than Earth.
Experience fighting demons means he must be skilled
Oh my guy, coming at a verse that rivals Marvel and DC in skill with that kind of reasoning doesnt bode well for the Slayer...
 
anywho, i'll drop this;

this is the same guy from the og games, taking down hordes that have previously wiped out entire platoons of trained marines with access to weaponry that could have easily teared apart said demons.

Ravaged through hell for eons killing demons without stopping.

killed the strongest titan with his bare hands, which was larger than 100 meters tall, leaving it as nothing but a skeleton

Capable of dodging 10 to 100s of projectiles and homing projectiles at the same time

Defeated an entire arena of Night sentinels. Warriors who exist within a society who has only known war. With their experience in combat having been taking down Ancestrals, the predecessors of the Titans without mechs. These men are hardened and strong warriors who were vastly above the physical strength the marine was capable right after being captured. His power reacted to their strength,his will matching theirs and pushed through their ranks despite these warriors having years and years of swordsmanship training.

until we meet again next time!
He definitely doesnt, where is the proof that he was alive for billions of years? And for the record, "Eons" is not automatically billions of years, that would make him older than Earth.
"The age of his reckoning was uncounted. The scribes carved his name deep in the tablets of Hell across eons, and each battle etched terror in the hearts of the demons. They knew he would come, as he always had, as he always will, to feast on the blood of the wicked. For he alone could draw strength from his fallen foes, and ever his power grew, swift and unrelenting." -UAC Report file

He ravaged through hell for a few eons before 2016 doom, stated a handful of times iirc. i'll try to get more of em, slight busy doe.
 
anywho, i'll drop this;

this is the same guy from the og games, taking down hordes that have previously wiped out entire platoons of trained marines with access to weaponry that could have easily teared apart said demons.
This is something that quite literally every character in RWBY can do, even the low-skill fodders
Ravaged through hell for eons killing demons without stopping.
A good feat of stamina but not really a good feat of skill when the vast majority of demons the Slayer encountered were several thousand times weaker than him
killed the strongest titan with his bare hands, which was larger than 100 meters tall, leaving it as nothing but a skeleton

Capable of dodging 10 to 100s of projectiles and homing projectiles at the same time

Defeated an entire arena of Night sentinels. Warriors who exist within a society who has only known war. With their experience in combat having been taking down Ancestrals, the predecessors of the Titans without mechs. These men are hardened and strong warriors who were vastly above the physical strength the marine was capable right after being captured. His power reacted to their strength,his will matching theirs and pushed through their ranks despite these warriors having years and years of swordsmanship training.

until we meet again next time!

Okay so:

At the bottom of the skill chain is aura users as a whole. While every living being in RWBY technically has Aura, actually being able to utilize it for things such as defense, regen, and senses requires years of training and a high enough degree of martial skill (and yes you actually need martial skill for it) that only a small percentage of the population of the entire planet ever become skilled enough to utilize their aura. Of that small percentage, an even smaller percentage ever become skilled enough to manifest/control a Semblance (yes semblances are also skill-based). To reach this small percentage comes to the second half of the bottom of the chain: Almost every character worth their salt in RWBY has spent their entire life training in combat and can fight hordes of Grimm with little issue (Almost because Jaune exists). The entirety of the main cast of RWBY was initially enrolled at Beacon Academy, one of the most prestigious combat schools in the world, with almost everyone who was accepted there having been trained for almost their entire life to fight monsters, and each one that was not professionally trained requiring a skill display overseen by Ozpin, who has the composite skill of several thousand professional huntsmen that he accumulated over his immortal lifetime. Thats the baseline for skill in the verse.

Before the Beacon Arc Ruby had been personally trained by her uncle Qrow in combat and as a result she was noted as always excelling above her peers in combat training. At the start of the series Ruby was at a level of skill that even though she was two years away from being eligible to join Beacon she was admitted due her combat prowess impressing Ozpin, with him noting that she was already a master at wielding one of the most dangerous weapons ever designed. In combat Ruby is capable of taking on entire hordes of Grimm on her own and walking away without a scratch and utilizing the different functionalities of the Crescent Rose, such as the massive recoil from the rifle aspect of the weapon and the weapon's transformative capabilities, in tandem with each other and her Semblance in order to maintain an edge over her opponent. Basically every named character is around this level of skill in the early seasons.

Above the early cast is Velvet. Velvet is able to perfectly and instantly mimic the exact moves that she observes other people use in combat as well as utilize multiple different fighting styles simultaneously, both armed and unarmed. Thanks to her weapon, Anesidora, Velvet is also able to copy fighting styles that utilize weapons, and she is able to wield the weapons that she copies just as effectively as their original user. To date that we know of, Velvet is able to simultaneously utilize the fighting styles and weapons of Ruby Rose, Yang Xiao Long, Weiss Schnee, Blake Belladonna, Nora Valkyrie, Sun Wukong, Penny Polendina, Coco Adel, Peter Port, Reese Chloris, Fox Alistar, Vega Bleu, Yatsuhashi Daichi, Russel Thrush, Roy Stallion, Neptune Vasilias, Brawnz Ni, Bartholomew Oobleck, Flynt Coal, Edward Caspian, and Scarlet David. Of note, every person listed spent their entire lives training in combat and several of them are professional huntsmen with decades of combat experience.

Moving up the chain we have Nebula Violette, who not only outmatched Velvet in a 1v1 test of martial arts skill, but was directly stated by Velvet's team, who spent years working alongside her, to be more skilled than Velvet in combat despite Velvet mixing numerous fighting styles to try to throw her off in their fight. Above her is Pyrrha Nikos, the skill god of the Beacon Arc. Pyrrha is one of the most skilled students at Beacon Academy, having won every combat tournament she has entered since she was a pre-teen due to both her mastery of combat and mastery of her semblance, being able to apply it in combat completely undetected and having done so in almost every fight she's been in for over a decade, doing so with such skill and precision that she has lead many to believe she is untouchable and invincible as no one has been able to even land a single blow on her in her combat career despite her having gone up against hundreds of opponents with a variety of fighting styles, weapons, and unique abilities. Even without her semblance she has shown the ability to quickly and easily adapt to her combat situation and analyze her opponents while fighting and changing tactics to suit the situation she is in, to the point that as casual training she regularly took on entire teams of huntsmen solo without the use of her semblance and never lost once. She has shown extreme accuracy, being able to hit moving targets from hundreds of meters away and strike vital weak points on an opponent mid-combat both with and without the aid of her semblance. She is also highly skilled at using her weapon's multiple forms in combat, being able to switch between forms several times in rapid succession to both deliver rapid attacks and counter others simultaneously.

Then theres Mercury. Mercury is a veritable master of close combat and one of the best assassins in the world, having spent his entire life since he could walk training in pure martial combat to make up for his Semblance being stolen by his father. He is shown to be a very acrobatic and agile fighter who relies upon quickly overpowering his opponent with complex kicks that imply a near-mastery of martial arts that resemble Tae-Kwon-Do. He is also capable of a break-dancing style, similar to Capoeira, and makes use of Muay Thai as well. Despite his focus on kicks, Mercury also uses his hands to grapple, block or redirect enemy attacks. His experience and skill are aggressive and effective enough to drive even fighters of a high caliber, like Pyrrha, into a defensive position, with Word of God confirming that Mercury would defeat her if he fought her seriously. Despite the presumed awkwardness of his weapon's ranged capabilities he is a skilled marksman, able to shoot a phone out of a person's hand from a good distance away, and is proficient at using the many different forms of projectiles at his disposal to keep his opponents off balance. Mercury is also known to be observant, tactical, and analytical, able to notice and deduce the capabilities and limits of Pyrrha's Polarity Semblance after she uses it once during their brief fight, despite Pyrrha using it extremely subtly in combat and having spent her entire life honing her ability to hide her Semblance and its mechanics from her opponents and the general public.

Above Mercury is Adam, who is skilled to the point that Mercury alongside his two teammates, Cinder Fall (Who can turn people to ash on contact) and Emerald Sustrai (Who can mindhax and perception hax people), saw him as a major threat, to the degree that Cinder went out of her way to steal one of the strongest sources of magic in the world before confronting him. Yang in this key is able to match him in CQC.

Now that the general level of skill has been established, Yang's specific feats:
  • In the early series she casually weaved through automatic gunfire on multiple occasions, dodging homing missiles and shooting rockets out of the air with her energy bullets, and was able to read and outpredict the attacks of two of the best assassins in the world fighting her in tandem on two different occasions. She personally designed and built her gauntlets to perfectly suit her initial aggressive combat style, with each punch she throws priming another shot so that she is able to keep constantly firing at the opponent or empowering her punches with explosive energy. Additionally, she mastered maneuverability with her gauntlets to the point of letting her almost fly with them by using the recoil to launch herself as well as being able to change direction on a dime to keep opponents off-balance. Of note, despite all of these things, her fighting style was described by several pro-huntsmen as sloppy, embarrassing, and overly aggressive.
  • After the fist arc of the show, Yang went through a timeskip training arc with her father, a veteran huntsman skilled enough in hand to hand combat to pick apart her fighting style to find all of her flaws in order to mentor her into becoming a more skilled, less bullheaded fighter. As a result of this Yang outgrew her overly aggressive former fighting style, adopting a more refined style that incorporates more agility and dodging rather than just tanking hits to fuel her semblance. She regularly displayed the ability to dodge and block attacks she didnt even see, and rather than her former style of activating her semblance as soon as possible to overwhelm the opponent with raw power, she instead stockpiles it for as long as she can in order to maximize the damage she can do while working throughout the fight to get the opponent into a position where they cannot reliably dodge her attacks when she activates her semblance.
"The age of his reckoning was uncounted. The scribes carved his name deep in the tablets of Hell across eons, and each battle etched terror in the hearts of the demons. They knew he would come, as he always had, as he always will, to feast on the blood of the wicked. For he alone could draw strength from his fallen foes, and ever his power grew, swift and unrelenting." -UAC Report file

He ravaged through hell for a few eons before 2016 doom, stated a handful of times iirc. i'll try to get more of em, slight busy doe.
Ye, like i said, eons tends to be a purposely vague, catch-all term for an unknown but long period of time, it doesnt just automatically mean billions of years, he would have to be almost as old as or older than the Earth itself for it to be literal.
 
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Ye, like i said, eons tends to be a purposely vague, catch-all term for an unknown but long period of time, it doesnt just automatically mean billions of years, he would have to be almost as old as or older than the Earth itself for it to be literal.
I am very certain theres some scans showing eons mean billions, plus you do know slayer didnt age because of how hell works right?
 
I am very certain theres some scans showing eons mean billions,

From a purely geological standpoint an eon is 1 billion years, but in general terms its just a blanket for 'a very long time', in the same vein as 'an eternity'.
plus you do know slayer didnt age because of how hell works right?
Ye
 
Also from the profile "likely thousands to billions of years old (Is stated to have been alive for "eons")"
 
He has the AP and Dura advantage, can use berserk to destroy her with AP gap,
An advantage of 1.4x which will be gone after he throws the first punch due to the mechanics of Yang's semblance, plus her aura being able to withstand Low 7-B attacks without going down. And why would Berserk 'destroy her with AP gap'?
more versatile it looks like
she not resisting elec manip or paralysis
Boyo, Doomslayer does not have electricity manip or paralysis inducement in this fight, he is in Berserk, that means he is limited to his fists and nothing else, he does not have access to any of his other weapons
Also from the profile "likely thousands to billions of years old (Is stated to have been alive for "eons")"
Yeah that needs to be revised, it is inaccurate
 
Also from the profile "likely thousands to billions of years old (Is stated to have been alive for "eons")"
From hell working on a different way I was thinking it's only billions, if there's a scan for "thousands of billions" this key has the biggest skill time I've ever seen
 
An advantage of 1.4x which will be gone after he throws the first punch due to the mechanics of Yang's semblance, plus her aura being able to withstand Low 7-B attacks without going down. And why would Berserk 'destroy her with AP gap'?
Because Bersek gives him buffs and it will tear her apart since she is already weaker.
Boyo, Doomslayer does not have electricity manip or paralysis inducement in this fight, he is in Berserk, that means he is limited to his fists and nothing else, he does not have access to any of his other weapons
He CAN be in berserk doesnt mean he is always in berserk. Slayer is smart enough to shoot her with a gun then open berserk to rip her guts out and feed those to her
Yeah that needs to be revised, it is inaccurate
lol
 
From hell working on a different way I was thinking it's only billions, if there's a scan for "thousands of billions" this key has the biggest skill time I've ever seen
Could you grab the scan please? Though again, spending billions of years killing fodder doesnt exactly make you skilled
 
 
Because Bersek gives him buffs and it will tear her apart since she is already weaker.
No? For one, she is not even 2x weaker. For two, if he lands so much as a single punch on her she will be hitting back 2.8x stronger than him. And for three, she has a passive full body forcefield that is Low 7-B in durability, he is not tearing through that that easily.
He CAN be in berserk doesnt mean he is always in berserk.
Thats not how it works my guy. Berserk is a limited time powerup, once its gone its gone, its not something h can just activate and deactivate at will.
Slayer is smart enough to shoot her with a gun then open berserk to rip her guts out and feed those to her
Slayer's guns are 9-B to 8-A, why would that do any kind of damage to a 7-C with a Low 7-B forcefield?
 
Yes, these are fodder. Slayer is 7-C, all but the Icon of Sin are 8-C and the Slayer never even fought more than one Icon of Sin. They are, by definition, fodder to the Slayer.
 
Could you grab the scan please? Though again, spending billions of years killing fodder doesnt exactly make you skilled
He'll yeah it does. it's not like a week, it's BILLIONS of years killing from tons of times weaker demons from demons a whole lot more than 7-C, winning via...skill.
 
No? For one, she is not even 2x weaker. For two, if he lands so much as a single punch on her she will be hitting back 2.8x stronger than him. And for three, she has a passive full body forcefield that is Low 7-B in durability, he is not tearing through that that easily.,
If slayer hits her he will start to slam her around using his brutal AP and LS to destroy her. She wont be able to survive it if slayer gets his hands on her
Thats not how it works my guy. Berserk is a limited time powerup, once its gone its gone, its not something h can just activate and deactivate at will.
How does that work in threads?
Slayer's guns are 9-B to 8-A, why would that do any kind of damage to a 7-C with a Low 7-B forcefield?
He can amp his guns anyways his hax still lets him paralyze her then beat her up
Yes, these are fodder. Slayer is 7-C, all but the Icon of Sin are 8-C and the Slayer never even fought more than one Icon of Sin. They are, by definition, fodder to the Slayer.
Slayer was not always 7-C. Also he fought Icon of sin like 3 times in canon as he keeps coming back.
 
He'll yeah it does. it's not like a week, it's BILLIONS of years killing from tons of times weaker demons from demons a whole lot more than 7-C, winning via...skill.
It really doesnt. Spending your entire life crushing ants doesnt make you a master martial artist, it just means you spent a lot of time killing things significantly weaker than you
 
If slayer hits her he will start to slam her around using his brutal AP and LS to destroy her. She wont be able to survive it if slayer gets his hands on her
My guy. No. Just no. Yang's semblance doubles her AP, lifting strength, and durability for every hit she takes. If he hits her once, she will be hitting back twice as hard, and each subsequent hit she takes will double it again. As well as the aformentioned forcefield that Slayer is not physically strong enough to get through as it can block Low 7-B attacks
How does that work in threads?
Once it runs out, he cant get it back.
He can amp his guns anyways his hax still lets him paralyze her then beat her up
Not to 7-C he cant.
Slayer was not always 7-C. Also he fought Icon of sin like 3 times in canon as he keeps coming back.
Cool, so the one non-fodder enemy he only ever fought three times over a self-proclaimed billion year crusade. That doesnt help your argument lol.
 
My guy. No. Just no. Yang's semblance doubles her AP, lifting strength, and durability for every hit she takes. If he hits her once, she will be hitting back twice as hard, and each subsequent hit she takes will double it again. As well as the aformentioned forcefield that Slayer is not physically strong enough to get through as it can block Low 7-B attacks
Proof of her being able to take attacks and letting herself do 3x the damage?
Cool, so the one non-fodder enemy he only ever fought three times over a self-proclaimed billion year crusade. That doesnt help your argument lol.
Like I said he was not always 7-C. He fought all the demons for thousands of years as a human with only his skill.
 
It really doesnt. Spending your entire life crushing ants doesnt make you a master martial artist, it just means you spent a lot of time killing things significantly weaker than you
Dude, via playing the games you can see that there's not only "ants".
even if you count that there's a **** ton of enemies and a handful of 7-C (his level) in, let's say, a year.
Those are eons, not like 2 days. Yeah, let's put eon it's like just 10000 years...
How can you say it's not a huge skill feat???
If it's so easy, imma go to hell doing it myself
 
Proof of her being able to take attacks and letting herself do 3x the damage?
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Like I said he was not always 7-C. He fought all the demons for thousands of years as a human with only his skill.
Cool, so what actual feats of skill does he have beyond just good stamina? Because literally every fodder character in rwby can solo hordes of monsters that can kill you if you make one wrong move. What does Slayer have that compares to the stuff i listed for Yang's skill above?
 
Skill in RWBY is basically a meme, lol.

Although, if you are that insistant on it, Weekly, than we need to give Doomslayer prior knowledge, to make things fair.

Also, her Semblance's showings are a bit inconsistant, as far as I remember at least.
 
Skill in RWBY is basically a meme, lol.

Although, if you are that insistant on it, Weekly, than we need to give Doomslayer prior knowledge, to make things fair.
Youd have to convince nonhino and Shion that Slayer is the less skilled one here first lol
Also, her Semblance's showings are a bit inconsistant, as far as I remember at least.
Not particularly? In the early seasons it wasnt as strong because she would always activate it early, and in the later seasons she basically exclusively uses it to oneshot opponents after a drawn out fight.
 
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