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Donehttps://www.vsbattles.com/threads/spirtual-lifeforms-physiology-page.159590/#post-6116252 this can be locked. the changes were applied
They are unlocked.The Acausality (Type 5) thread concluded and I'd like to apply it to the relevant characters. Which are Yang Qi & Proud Heaven.
Please unlock the profiles and thanks in advance.
Since I can't ban myself, I'd like to request a ban for one week for reasons that I won't explain. And, yes, I would like it to be a ban rather than just a break.
I'd like a few minutes before the ban, however. I need to get some stuff in order.
Edit: I've said what I needed to. I'm ready for a ban.
@Antvasima @DarkDragonMedeus @AKM sama Could one of you perform the ban?
Also, just ban me on the forum, not the wiki.
@ByAsuraI tried, and it doesn't work if I do it. It says "Successfully banned", but when I look at your profile or banned users list it does not register. Think only Bureaucrats can ban Admins.
Would anybody here be willing to search for official book illustration images for "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" characters, so we can use them instead, please?Well, the creator of these profiles don't have account in the forum, so there's no much we can do.
Some of the characters from the following verse have Limitless/Infinite stamina for no explained reason.
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@Celestial_Pegasus @Mefre @TISSG7Redgrave @SheevShezarrine @Wokistan @DemonGodMitchAubin @SuperKamiNappa @UchihaSlayer96 @Zaratthustra @SamanPatou @CuddleFox @Chariot190 @azontr
You guys are listed as Berserk supporters so what we should do in this case?
Regarding some of those stamina ratings, for the God Hand members and Skull Knight they lack a mortal/natural form that would get taxed, Skull Knight has casually shown far greater stamina than Guts (likely the most high-endurance mortal being in the entire series, factoring out Apostles' Type 2 Immortality), and the God Hand are capable of doing intensely powerful feats of magic casually without displaying any strain. So for those 6 characters, they're attributed limitless stamina on account of not having forms that we'd really have much reason to believe would feel strain from anything other than actual harm, and they've got pretty significant showings of flexing massively on characters with superhuman stamina without issue. If there's others, particularly corporeal characters, that have limitless stamina, I see no problem with removing those ratings.
@SheevShezarrine @Celestial_Pegasus @Mefre @TISSG7Redgrave @Wokistan @DemonGodMitchAubin @SuperKamiNappa @UchihaSlayer96 @Zaratthustra @SamanPatou @CuddleFox @Chariot190 @azontrThank you for helping out.
The problem is that we need some form of reliable evidence before we assume that any character can literally fight for an eternity without ever getting tired, including robots and undead.
I'll just see if I can block the site or something, then.I think that I would have to demote you before banning you, which seems unnecessarily problematic.
I believe we can safely give superhuman to most, although rn I can't think of any particular feat.
I added official book illustrations for our THGTTG pages, except for the Vogons, for whom I couldn't find any.Would anybody here be willing to search for official book illustration images for "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" characters, so we can use them instead, please?
WhyWell, the issue here is that we need actually evidence for or official statements regarding that the God Hand could hypothetically, for example, fight each other at full force for trillions of years without even getting winded before we should grant them literally infinite stamina.
Saman is correct on what I mean, yes. I don't think we should give beings who lack a physical form finite stamina without it being explicit. In the same way we wouldn't give a being who maintains a physical form infinite stamina without it being explicit.
Please note that characters that are mechanical or undead should not automatically be assumed to possess infinite stamina, unless this trait has been clearly defined within the series or by the lore.
What he means is that the God Hand, unless they decide to incarnate, exist as abstract and conceptual beings, devoid of physical form.
I know that fiction doesn't follow rules, so it's very well possible for even such beings to get tired, so idk.
Maybe "unknown" plus explanation is better?,
We definitely do not automatically give ghosts and beings made of energy infinite stamina, as their energy supply can potentially run out. Abstract beings are more uncertain, so I think that "Unknown. At least Superhuman" might work.Saman is correct on what I mean, yes. I don't think we should give beings who lack a physical form finite stamina without it being explicit. In the same way we wouldn't give a being who maintains a physical form infinite stamina without it being explicit.
We automatically give them physically limitless stamina, which we make distinct from stamina tied to an energy source on a profile. A ghost getting physically tired from say, running, and a ghost getting tired from using abilities tied to an energy system are two different things.We definitely do not automatically give ghosts and beings made of energy infinite stamina, as their energy supply can potentially run out. Abstract beings are more uncertain, so I think that "Unknown. At least Superhuman" might work.
A ghost with a physical form? The note is kinda straightforward on what it's exactly referring to. I am pretty sure understanding it well. Perhaps, I may misunderstand your point, so I beg for further elaboration.@ImmortalDread refers to beings with physical forms. I am referring to incorporeal beings, like ghosts, and other abstract entities, which do not fall under the same category.
This general statistic encompasses a number of different traits and characteristics that operate differently, and that can thus differ within a single character. Because of this and the inherent variability of stamina, it is difficult to create a comprehensive and consistent universal ranking system for these feats, although some guidelines can be established. Because of this, it is best to explain and source examples of a character's stamina feats rather than simply state a generalised rating.
Stamina is also mostly related to one's own physique, the way it stores and burns energy and how it reacts to external factors. This is usually the product of aspects such as training, lifestyle, physiology and more, featuring differences even among the members of the same species, and thus it heavily depends on the single individual. For these reasons it is recommended to not scale stamina between characters that are comparable or superior to each other in terms of statistics such as Attack Potency, Durability etc. It should be allowed only when levels of stamina are explicitly defined as common and natural traits shared by members of the same species or group, or through direct statements, feats and evidences of the characters being comparable in such aspect.
Please note that characters that are mechanical or undead should not automatically be assumed to possess infinite stamina, unless this trait has been clearly defined within the series or by the lore.
Any evidence of this? The stamina page does not state this at all, and kinda trying to denote that feats and statements are required, not assumptions.We automatically give them physically limitless stamina, which we make distinct from stamina tied to an energy source on a profile. A ghost getting physically tired from say, running, and a ghost getting tired from using abilities tied to an energy system are two different things.
This change would likely be prudent. The basic principle is the same. Beings that lack the physiology through which limitations on human stamina manifest are not automatically considered to lack any limitation, as it is far too often the case in fiction that these beings still "tire out" in some fashion for us to assume by default that they have infinite stamina.We tried to be specific regarding our stamina standards to include bodiless undead characters and similar, but maybe we should try to make them even harder to misunderstand, by specifically mentioning the phrase "including ghosts, and other physically bodiless characters" at the end?
Clearly defines that a character is a robot, cyborg, zombie, vampire, or any other mechanical or undead being, it doesn't mean they can continue performing physical or mental tasks endlessly without getting tired.Please note that characters that are mechanical or undead should not automatically be assumed to possess infinite stamina, unless this trait has been clearly defined within the series or by the lore.
We tried to be specific regarding our stamina standards to include bodiless undead characters and similar, but maybe we should try to make them even harder to misunderstand, by specifically mentioning the phrase "including ghosts, and other physically bodiless characters" at the end?
Would either of you be willing to initiate a staff only thread based on what I said above please? I unfortunately have extremely limited free time available.This change would likely be prudent. The basic principle is the same. Beings that lack the physiology through which limitations on human stamina manifest are not automatically considered to lack any limitation, as it is far too often the case in fiction that these beings still "tire out" in some fashion for us to assume by default that they have infinite stamina.
Can someone close these too.
Done.
Why? Tier 2 profiles are fine with being unlocked, and their profiles never seem to have been locked or controversial at all.Can someone close these too.
I mean i saw once a user vandalising one of these profiles, it's ok if it cannot be lockedDone.
Why? Tier 2 profiles are fine with being unlocked, and their profiles never seem to have been locked or controversial at all.
This goes hereThis thread needs to be evaluated. All stuff here has already been accepted in other profiles but looking to make it an actual page instead of an blog, the more admins the better. https://vsbattles.com/threads/ultimate-skill-user-page-tensura.159950/ Thank you all for reading and taking time to look over it.
Ah, I am new to this so i did not know, Thank you for telling me.This goes here