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[Antvasima]

Calculations

In order to determine a character's Destructive Capacity, we must first look through the character's feats, and determine how much energy was exerted to preform such a feat. Sometimes the destructive capacity of the feat can be determined easily with no need of a calculation, but most of the...

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Here after explaining what each one is, the rock value is put on these, the pulverization says 214.35 J/cc...
In the table it says 214 J/cc
After reviewing the only one of the links that talks about the pulverization of the rock, it seems that the correct one would be the one without decimals (the first of the links under the table of values)

@DontTalkDT

Would you be willing to verify and correct this if necessary, please?

 

[Antvasima]

@Antvasima If a character is an in-verse cheater, does that mean that character can work around restrictions placed on match-ups?

Lets say a character uses equipment/technology inverse and that is restricted, could that character bend around that restriction to say only equipment that give them a combat advantage such as an AP or speed bump isn't allowed?

I am not sure. Sorry. Versus threads are not my area of interest.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Close my thread, its a stomp

 

[SamanPatou]

I ask permission to rename Magica de Spell to Magica De Spell (DuckTales), since the profile covers her version from that series, which isn't the original one, as she first appeared in Carl Barks' comics.
Her tabber and related links would be modified accordingly.

 

[Antvasima]

Close my thread, its a stomp

Somebody else handled it.

I ask permission to rename Magica de Spell to Magica De Spell (DuckTales), since the profile covers her version from that series, which isn't the original one, as she first appeared in Carl Barks' comics.
Her tabber and related links would be modified accordingly.

That is fine with me.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I'm looking at this link here, and I'm confused by the wording? Angle of attack? Is there really any angle of attack if your simply cushing a bone in your hand? And not all bones are the same shape, and some parts of a bone are thicker than others, and what if a character crushes multiple bones at once like ones in a wrist?

 

[Antvasima]

I'm looking at this link here, and I'm confused by the wording? Angle of attack? Is there really any angle of attack if your simply cushing a bone in your hand? And not all bones are the same shape, and what if a character crushes multiple bones at once like ones in a wrist?

@Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @KLOL506 @Jasonsith

What do you think about this?

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out. What about the following page? Shouldn't it become a disambiguation page as well?

Wiz

Wiz is one of the side characters of the Konosuba series. Being one of the Demon King's generals and a Lich with incredibly high magic power, she is one of the strongest characters in the series. Tier: 8-C physically, 8-B with spells, 8-A with Explosion Name: Wiz Origin: Kono Subarashii Sekai ni...

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@Mariogoods

 

[Antvasima]

Here are some comparatively minor issues that I found in my community to-do-list:


Language cleanup is necessary, so it turns more formal:

Touhou Explanation Page

Touhou Project is a very wide verse. This may cause newcomers to not understand the reasoning for our ratings. This page is created to explain feats that need more context to properly understand. This section will explain characters physiology, thus anyone that fall under these races will have...

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The Elsword pages seem to be scaled to 4-A from a creation feat without evidence that it scales to physical power:

Elsword

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Creation Feats

Creation feats are feats in which a character creates objects from nothing by means like Reality Warping or similar. This separates them from feats in which objects are created from already existing materials, which would be calculated by conventional methods, or feats that qualify for...

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Can somebody investigate if these pages contain guesswork statistics please?

K Project

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Help with all of the above would be very appreciated.

Also, I think that we still need to get this handled.

 

[KLOL506]

I'm looking at this link here, and I'm confused by the wording? Angle of attack? Is there really any angle of attack if your simply cushing a bone in your hand? And not all bones are the same shape, and some parts of a bone are thicker than others, and what if a character crushes multiple bones at once like ones in a wrist?

If you're crushing it by compressing, wouldn't you just use compressive strength of bone instead on the volume of the amount of bone you're crushing?

The angle of attack is explicitly for attacks involving blows or kicks at steep angles, not for slow crushing via compression.

 

[KLOL506]

Calculations

In order to determine a character's Destructive Capacity, we must first look through the character's feats, and determine how much energy was exerted to preform such a feat. Sometimes the destructive capacity of the feat can be determined easily with no need of a calculation, but most of the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Here after explaining what each one is, the rock value is put on these, the pulverization says 214.35 J/cc...
In the table it says 214 J/cc
After reviewing the only one of the links that talks about the pulverization of the rock, it seems that the correct one would be the one without decimals (the first of the links under the table of values)

Yeah I always wondered where the .35 value came from. Either way, not an overwhelmingly big change. Doubt most calcs would need to be changed, it's a 1.00164x difference.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

If you're crushing it by compressing, wouldn't you just use compressive strength of bone instead on the volume of the amount of bone you're crushing?

The angle of attack is explicitly for attacks involving blows or kicks at steep angles, not for slow crushing via compression.

What is the compressive strength of bone then?

 

[KLOL506]

What is the compressive strength of bone then?

170 MPa or 170 J/cc.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

106 MPa or 106 J/cc.

Might be a good idea to have that added to the References to Common Feats Page

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I hate that I can't find a direct source that tells me the volume of the carpal bones

 

[Antvasima]

Yeah I always wondered where the .35 value came from. Either way, not an overwhelmingly big change. Doubt most calcs would need to be changed, it's a 1.00164x difference.

If I unlock the page, would you be willing to update it?

 

[Antvasima]

What is the compressive strength of bone then?

106 MPa or 106 J/cc.

Might be a good idea to have that added to the References to Common Feats Page

@KLOL506 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Jasonsith

Do you think that this would be a good idea?

 

[KLOL506]

@KLOL506 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Jasonsith

Do you think that this would be a good idea?

Destruction energy value, more appropriate place is the Table of Destruction Values. It's widely accepted AFAIK.

 

[KLOL506]

If I unlock the page, would you be willing to update it?

Aye. I would.

 

[Antvasima]

Aye. I would.

Thank you for helping out. I have unlocked the page for you. Tell me here when you are done.

Destruction energy value, more appropriate place is the Table of Destruction Values. It's widely accepted AFAIK.

Okay. Perhaps you should add it to that table while performing the above-mentioned edit then? Or should we ask DontTalk first?

 

[KLOL506]

Thank you for helping out. I have unlocked the page for you. Tell me here when you are done.

Okay. Perhaps you should add it to that table while performing the above-mentioned edit then? Or should we ask DontTalk first?

Sorry for the delay, I was taxed out last night. I'll carry out the edits for therock pulv stuff.

As for the bone, I guess it couldn't hurt to ask DT. I'll ask him on the message wall and then tag him here once he responds.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

@KLOL506 Somehow according to here, the compressive strength of bone is 170 J/cc

 

[Bobsican]

Rename Peppa Pig to "Peppa Pig (Character)", per standard page naming rules as the verse has the same name.

 

[KLOL506]

@KLOL506 Somehow according to here, the compressive strength of bone is 170 J/cc

Ah, I screwed up. I mixed 106 with my wikipedia link, which also says 170 MPa.

Anyways, the skull calc uses the same wikipedia link as I did low-end frag strength (Low-end shear strength) would be 51.6 MPa, 104-121 is tensile strength but we need shear strength (Which is 0.6x that of tensile strength) so v. frag is usually 62.4-72.6 MPa for v. frag (High-end shear strength or low-end compressive strength is used for v. frag), and maximum compressive strength is 170 MPa.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

close the thread it got necroed

 

[The_Impress]

done

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Okami got upgraded to 3-C: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Amaterasu_(Ōkami)

But I don't see any calcs to justify that

 

[Confluctor]

It has always been 3-C, no?

In any case, it says the following;

Spun an entire galaxy by using her wind brush power

(timestamp)


Not sure about this one, but in general, you don't always need a calcs for certain tiers. But this feat does seems somewhat sus, along with most of the ratings for the verse. Tho it is quite an outdated verse from what I can see. Last proper update was years ago

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

But a calc was done for that feat that made it at 4-B

 

[Confluctor]

Do you want to create a CRT to fix that?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Maybe, this is the calc in question: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Matthew_Schroeder/Okami_Calculations_(By_Vivi)

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Okami got upgraded to 3-C: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Amaterasu_(Ōkami)

But I don't see any calcs to justify that

Seems it was changed without a revision here, but went below the radar. She should be changed back to 4-B.

Edit: I checked just in case. Apparently, her upgrade to 3-C was accepted here

 

[RoTt35]

This CRT ended and can be closed

 

[Antvasima]

Rename Peppa Pig to "Peppa Pig (Character)", per standard page naming rules as the verse has the same name.

I handled it.

 

[Antvasima]

Sorry for the delay, I was taxed out last night. I'll carry out the edits for therock pulv stuff.

As for the bone, I guess it couldn't hurt to ask DT. I'll ask him on the message wall and then tag him here once he responds.

No problem.

@DontTalkDT

Would you be willing to take a look here please?

 

[Antvasima]

Seems it was changed without a revision here, but went below the radar. She should be changed back to 4-B.

Edit: I checked just in case. Apparently, her upgrade to 3-C was accepted here

It is probably best if we continue with the Okami discussion in the thread linked above then.

 

[Antvasima]

This CRT ended and can be closed

Somebody else handled it.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

It is probably best if we continue with the Okami discussion in the thread linked above then.

I am knowledgeable about Okami, will take a look at the thread in more detail later.

 

[DontTalkDT]

No problem.

@DontTalkDT

Would you be willing to take a look here please?

Seems ok from what I'm seeing. I don't remember if there was a source that gave a more precise value or something, so going with what we're given in that blog should be the right move.

 

[KLOL506]

Seems ok from what I'm seeing. I don't remember if there was a source that gave a more precise value or something, so going with what we're given in that blog should be the right move.

Pulv. value has been fixed accordingly.

You think I should make a blog for the bone stuff so that you can evaluate it and then I can add it to the Table of Destruction Values page?