Alakazam vs Jiraiya

[XXKINGXX69]

Alakazam vs Sage Mode Jiraiya

Large Mountain Level+ Alakazam, no dynamax - 3.181 gigatons
Large Mountain level Jiraiya - 1.56 gigatons i think

Speed equal

 

[GyroNutz]

I think Alakazam has the advantage here due to his intelligence, range advantage and TP + TK to abuse said range advantage. I also don't see any resistance on Jiraiya's profile to mind manip.

 

[Arceus0x]

While Alakazam's MM is useless since its based on confuse ray and Jiraya's MM is super scary and idk if Alakazam can actually handle it. Question is, can and will he use it here and how does it work? Once that is answered the match will be decided.

Otherwise Alakazam constantly looks into the future and sees the entirety of one's past and future, meaning he sees what the opponent will do, thus landing him the advantage. His 4000IQ beyond supercomputer intellect will make it so he knows what to do very fast. He could probably learn of Jiraya's attacks and would likely set up and use some good moves like kinesis and calm mind, lowering Jiraya's accuracy and boosting his own powers through the roof. Once that is done, Alakazam could use the future sight attack which ignores barriers and will 100% guarantee strike the opponent and he could also just keep Jiraya away with Psychic which lifts the opponent in the air and strikes them with High 7-A potency, shooting them around places. Overall I am leaning towards Alakazam, though i do wanna hear how Ma and Pa works as this could be a stomp for all we know

 

[Arceus0x]

Also Alakazam can cause violent headaches to distract Jiraya

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

What's stopping Ala from using Calm Mind?

 

[GyroNutz]

While Alakazam's MM is useless since its based on confuse ray and Jiraya's MM is super scary and idk if Alakazam can actually handle it. Question is, can and will he use it here and how does it work? Once that is answered the match will be decided.

Otherwise Alakazam constantly looks into the future and sees the entirety of one's past and future, meaning he sees what the opponent will do, thus landing him the advantage. His 4000IQ beyond supercomputer intellect will make it so he knows what to do very fast.

Alakazam's Mind Manip is also from Psycho Shift, and a blanket "it can use all types of psychic powers" statement. The precognition stuff is from Mega Alakazam - if he had that here he's probably stomp. But Alakazam should still be smart enough to keep out of Jiraya's range and use its psychic powers to get the win here.

What's stopping Ala from using Calm Mind?

Nothing

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Then Ala eventually one shots with the amounts of Calm Minds that boosts up his special attack

 

[Epiccheev]

While Alakazam's MM is useless since its based on confuse ray

I think i once heard someone saying in another thread it came from him mindhaxing a large island full of pokemon. (not that it matters now that numbers are out of the equation)

 

[GyroNutz]

I think i once heard someone saying in another thread it came from him mindhaxing a large island full of pokemon. (not that it matters now that numbers are out of the equation)

More like scaling abilities to the Drowzee that mindhaxed an island, since Alakazam is stated to be capable of using all types of psychic powers.

 

[Arceus0x]

amounts of people mindhaxed doesn't matter anymore since in 99% of the situations it is levels of resistance or dimensionality that matters, using amounts of people haxxed only in a case by case basis.

 

[Imaginym]

While Alakazam's MM is useless since its based on confuse ray and Jiraya's MM is super scary and idk if Alakazam can actually handle it. Question is, can and will he use it here and how does it work? Once that is answered the match will be decided.

Well, not entirely anymore.
As of Pokemon: Legends Arceus, Alakazam can learn Hypnosis. Whether or not it's in-character for it to use it, IDK. But if it's smart enough, it'd certainly be able to realize to do so.
Although, non-Mega Alakazam doesn't see the future, it's just very smart, so it might not know about outside factors; If Jiraiya can escape Genjutsus, he might be able to escape Hypnosis, too, & the mechanics of chakra (Although, Kadabra supposedly has immense spiritual power, so it might be aware of such a system, whether or not it can perceive it. But maybe Alakazam mentally simulate it?) & escaping genjutsu/Mind Manipulation.
But resisting/escaping Hypnosis is probably plausible enough, even without outside knowledge, that Alakazam might have a backup plan, even if I don't know what.

Otherwise Alakazam constantly looks into the future and sees the entirety of one's past and future, meaning he sees what the opponent will do, thus landing him the advantage.

Citation for non-Mega Alakazam? IIRC, Future Sight fails if there's already a foreseen attack that hasn't occurred yet.

His 4000IQ beyond supercomputer intellect will make it so he knows what to do very fast.

5000 IQ, but yes. (Although, Shield's entry, the newest comparison only puts it "on par" with a supercomputer. "Technology is incredible!", indeed, I guess.)


What are Jiraiya's win conditions? AFAIK, for this to not be a Stomp (Hax/Intelligence Stomp, if that's a thing?), Jiraiya would need to have no feasible/plausible/reasonably achievable win conditions.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

More like scaling abilities to the Drowzee that mindhaxed an island, since Alakazam is stated to be capable of using all types of psychic powers.

It was an amped Drowzee unfortunately

And you know what, this does look like a stomp and should be closed, I'll ask a mod. I thought someone was gonna argue for Jiraiya, his genjutsu isn't something he starts with