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I mean sure, seeing a CRT being undone because Reiner was too quick to apply everything does bring me some enjoyment, so go ahead.
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Transcending structures is not HDE, thats the whole premise of the thread
Anyways DT here said containing a 4D structure is HDE.
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Not if that pocket dimension is literally your body
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"A given object or entity is referred to as being higher-dimensional when they exist as part of a system with a number of coordinates axes greater than our own, or in layman's terms, if they possess more than three dimensions."
I'm pretty sure Alien X is more than 3-D.
I'm pretty sure Alien X is more than 3-D.
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Do you know what/where the scans for that are?
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Is the universe in Alien X's body confirmed to have time inside of it? By default it should have time, but you know how this wiki is
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Higher-Dimensional Existence (Alien X's body has a pocket Universe which has its own Time and Causality disconnected from rest of Time, Stated to transcend the very plane of Existence)
Ben 10: HDE and Infinite lifting strength for Alien X
This CRT is pretty simple; Alien X body itself is iself a Pocket Universe with infinite galaxies shown in the events of Universe recreation when he sent galaxies outside of his body in the main Universe, it has been already accepted here and written on his profile. Serena, Bellicus and Ben...
Alien X's body has its own infinite Universe inside him and was stated to transcend the very plane of Existence.
I would consider this as more than 3-D.
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What do you needs scans of specifically?
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Do we know that it's a universe or that it's infinite? The clip that the page has linked doesn't really show that.Higher-Dimensional Existence (Alien X's body has a pocket Universe which has its own Time and Causality disconnected from rest of Time, Stated to transcend the very plane of Existence)
Ben 10: HDE and Infinite lifting strength for Alien X
This CRT is pretty simple; Alien X body itself is iself a Pocket Universe with infinite galaxies shown in the events of Universe recreation when he sent galaxies outside of his body in the main Universe, it has been already accepted here and written on his profile. Serena, Bellicus and Ben...vsbattles.com
Alien X's body has its own infinite Universe inside him and was stated to transcend the very plane of Existence.
I would consider this as more than 3-D.
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Celestialsapiens are born outside the multiverse disconnected from all of time. This essentially makes the pocket dimension being outside regular time. Also he survived the destruction of annihilarg which destroyed the entire universe. This wouldn't be possible if his pocket dimension shared the same space-time as regular universe.
There is a statement from Paradox Where He said "Albedo Turned Into Alien X and was trapped motionless for nearly a year". This wouldn't mean anything if the pocket dimension had no time in it.
Also ,Paradox cannot go in timeless void like he couldn't go in the beginning of time. Here ,he was able to enter Alien X pocket dimension with his chrononavigator which is a GPS to the multiverse
Moreover, here he released galaxy sized orbs from himself inorder to recreate the infnite universe. This essentially implies infinite 3D matter with time from the above scans.
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Sure, but pocket dimensions don't really help us assert HDE. Even if they are outside the normal universe.
Can you explain your reasoning?
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The problem is that DT really said that going over that plane wouldn't be enough for HDE, (I just saw this in the HDE revision). He said that for this, there must be a +1 axis mathematically.
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Yeah his space is filled with stars and in the event of so long and thanks for smoothies, Alien X sent Infinite Galaxies outside of his body into the main Universe.
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Can I have a scan of that?
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Alright, thats enough evidence for me, I disagree with the OP, 5d HDE should stay, though there is the problem of the edit breaking wiki rules, but thats not my issue
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As Deagonx once said, time is the mere continuous progression of events (or smth like that) so every place where that happens has time.
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1) it's a universe because :
Alien X is literally using his own pocket dimension to recreate the universe
2) ben 10 universe is infinite in size and considering Alien x used his own pocket dimension to create the universe then this means that Alien x pocket dimension is also infinite in size
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Shouldn't we wait for the HDE Ability Revision Thread to finish before we start applying it to verses?
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I was asserting the pocket dimension has its own space-time rather than sharing it with the normal space-time. The body of Alien X containing a 4D pocket dimensions makes him have atleast 4D HDE.
He essentially recreates the universe throwing off galaxies from his body as you can see in this scan. The universe in ben 10 is accepted to be infinite in size, essentially making the pocket dimension inside his body have infinite matter.
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From his perspective
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It has to be an entire timeline, not just a universe and time, it is like saying I am 4D, cause I have organs in me which go through changes.
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Okay, so wouldn't that be like High 3-A?
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Essentially implies the pocket dimension has time in it and its not a timeless void
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This feels like Acausality Type 5 all over again.
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Greenshifter, you have to stop being rude. If I see another comment like this I'm threadbanning you.
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Unless he has it by nature of size since that is my argument that still holds, it does not matter
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Alien X doesn't literally send galaxies, he sends out energy orbs that create the galaxies.
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Sorry, just got off of Reddit, I’ll leave it to Reiner and Aachintya then
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Not necessarily a timeline. a 4D structure will work out.
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Based on what I've seen I would support H3-A, or Low 2-C if we agree the pocket dimension has time.
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Unless we default a Universe that has galaxies, stars to be high 3A, no.
Our default baseline reality is stated to be L2C that is Spacetime continuum which is essential unless stated otherwise (Timeless voids even in fiction are extraordinary and hence has to be stated specifically).
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