... alright let's do it again. "This guy with human stats and the ability to copy body (but not abilities) beat this universal guy by becoming that other guy, there's no reason to assume that other guy would be universal!"
False equivalence since Alien X isn't simply DNA, a piece of Celestialsapien DNA, or whatever you want to call it. He is a fully fledged and whole Celestialsapien just like any other one in the species, as is any alien the Omnitrix gives Ben.
His debunks make no sense lmao.
Wtf are you even saying?
Are you ******* trying to be dense right now? Alien X DNA is powerful enough to breach it is that hard to comprehend? If it were that easy skurd DNA would have been used but it was Alien X body which was used to breach the extra-dimentional barrier.
Which alien DNA was used to breach it?
and it definitively do not work the way you think it does. If anything it's an argument toward alien X being stronger, not weaker
Then debunk them.......
Im saying if they don't make sense to you, then they should be easy to debunk yes? So debunk them. "This doesnt make sense" is not a counter argument.
DNA =/= power or strength, so yes it is. DNA being "powerful enough" is not a thing.
Or Alien X's DNA was a required component for Skurds physical self to breech the extra-dimensional barrier. Which is more reasonable than this random interpretation of DNA needing to be powerful enough.
Doesnt matter as said above. DNA is not AP.
Unless you want to argue Skurd being Low 2-C (which he wouldnt anyway since the barrier doesnt and wouldnt have Low 2-C durability as earlier points explained why it wouldnt), this goes nowhere.
very weak example. It was never stated that alien X was an exact counter and he didn't need external support
it's not dna, it's copying AP (and appareance through DNA
skurd doesn't have a key but yes, he would get "low 2-C with celestial-sapien DNA" if he did
@Antvasima This is what my arguments are. Turns out I didn’t need to write anything else because I’m not gonna rewrite something I’ve said time and time again.
Skurd scaling to the barrier but AX not scaling to Skurd cause limbs > full thing. Apparently.
Wtf that is wrong on so many levels.
When firestorm did why should I again?
Why should I debunk shit that don't make any sense lmao and firestorm already addressed his statement.
I don't seem to understand this.
I don't seem to understand you tbh or it's almost like I'm chatting with a being who can't use common sense.
What kind of dumb false equivalence is this? Can you think how are both the same thing?
Did I ever say DNA = AP?
Now I see your just ignorant lmao. Or you simply can't think with common sense as a normal human would.
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would we get a skurd page?
Can people STOP putting words in my mouth? I never said "limbs > full thing" my point is that we don't use DNA as a means to give scaling and have never done so, the DNA from Alien X was simply a required component to break through the barrier when nothing else could.
Um skurd isn't using the dna to cut the barrier, he's using the dna to make an alien X arm that has the AP to cut the barrier.
Which again implies Skurd magically has the power to replicate, what some of you consider here, a degree of infinity or more on a whim, which is nonsense unless again, you argue for tier 3/2 Skurd to be a thing.
If you consider the barrier Low 2-C in durability and Skurd being able to break it with Alien X DNA, that results in Skurd being capable of replicating tier 3/2 power at will. And thats a ticket to outlier city for him.
Skurd uses DNA from the omnitrix to fuse multiple transformations, skurd already hass access to the alien X dna from the omnitrix, he just has to fuse it with chromastone, this is powers and abilities, not AP.
The Alien DNA shown being used to breach ìt was Alien X's DNA.
"varies, up to 3A/low 2C with celestialsepiens DNA"
You can't tank creation but you can tank the energy leading to it.
Agnaa already explained this. Unless the energy is used as a destructive action, you can’t. The energy isn’t what’s harming u, the dense thermal energy is.
How did you get that from that?????? Look it's like if I took a regular human (i'm actually wall level but so you don't feel bad) took a knife now my ap is no longer 10-B and is now 9-C, the same idea is that chromastone got a alien X sword which has low 2-C AP and used that to break the barrier while he's only large building.
... so?
The annilihargh is a weapon/tech that can cause an explosion which would lead to creation.
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I agree with Zamasu Chan's evaluation based on those two posts. Mostly because of this clip showing the universes existing as sort of hubble volumes.
Sorry, but can you elaborate on which points you are referring to and why that scene is related to the creation of the universe and the timestream?
I don't get what you're trying to say, so what if the universe is represented like that when they are in the forge of creation (which is outside of time and space)?
Where was that discussed? Because iirc the Big Bang page is the newer one, having a CRT to make it as it is 5 months ago. If anything, the Tiering System page should've been changed in accordance with the Big Bang page revision. And fwiw, I disagree with some of the wording changes.
