Alien (OPM) vs. Earth Alien (DBZ)

[Bernkastelll]

Goku stated he could have destroyed kid buu in ssj3

Scans? Actually, its not relevant to this match, nvm

ki blasts can destroy at a molecular level is already accepted

Source?

 

[ThanatosX]

Which is just an big ki blast(their is nothing special about spirit bomb) anyway it's already accepted so you will need to make a crt for that to be changed

I don't see anything in their profiles pointing towards Ki Blasts being able to destroy matter at an atomic or molecular level. Could you link the CTR where this was accepted?

 

[Rez]

Scans? Actually, its not relevant to this match, nvm

 

[Bernkastelll]

''Could've beaten the fate boo'' thats not relevant, majin buu regeneration can be countered with something that is far stronger than Buu, like Kid Buu slapping him and Majin Buu looking like a paste in the floor

 

[Rez]

Again their is nothing special about spirit bomb it's just a bigger ki blast

 

[Bernkastelll]

Anyways I dont see how it matters, as if they have relative AP/Dura, it never ''erased someone at molecular level''

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Which is just an big ki blast(their is nothing special about spirit bomb)

This. I swear the Spirit Bomb is the most overhyped shit I've ever seen.

I really want to make a CRT stating that the line.

"Goku's Ultimate attack"

Is removed from his page lmao

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I don't see anything in their profiles pointing towards Ki Blasts being able to destroy matter at an atomic or molecular level. Could you link the CTR where this was accepted?

This.

 

[Rez]

I don't see anything in their profiles pointing towards Ki Blasts being able to destroy matter at an atomic or molecular level. Could you link the CTR where this was accepted?

Idk about that crt but here is a different crt the ki blasts and molecular destruction topic is brought up frequently here

https://vsbattles.com/threads/super-spirit-bomb-ee.114352/#post-3664088

 

[Rez]

Anyways I dont see how it matters, as if they have relative AP/Dura, it never ''erased someone at molecular level''

Kid buu can regenerate from smoke so just ap won't be able to bypass his regeneration

 

[Bernkastelll]

Kid buu can regenerate from smoke so just ap won't be able to bypass his regeneration

Do u have any proof that his regeneration is better than Majin Buu one? because if not, it means that enough AP will eventually decrease Buu capacity to regenerate, he was literally like a paste in the floor, anyways, Ki waves just overpower, but if the enemy has enough dura, they can tank the energy waves without being ''Destroyed in a atomic level'', they literally dont even have it listed in their profiles

 

[Rez]

Do u have any proof that his regeneration is better than Majin Buu one? because if not, it means that enough AP will eventually decrease Buu capacity to regenerate, he was literally like a paste in the floor, anyways, Ki waves just overpower, but if the enemy has enough dura, they can tank the energy waves without being ''Destroyed in a atomic level'', they literally dont even have it listed in their profiles

Their(all of the buus) regeneration is accepted as same

And also this is right after buu regenerates from vapors
Again if you have a problem just make a crt it's already accepted

 

[Bernkastelll]

Their(all of the buus) regeneration is accepted as same

Neat, then my point remains intact.

 

[Rez]

Neat, then my point remains intact.

No it doesn't Buu's regeneration was never shown to slow down and pure ap can't bypass mid high regen. If you disagree with this just make a crt

 

[Rez]

And kid buu wasn't even tired when he was hit by spirit bomb

 

[Bernkastelll]

No it doesn't Buu's regeneration was never shown to slow down and pure ap can't bypass mid high regen.

it literally does, remember when Kid Buu started slapping Fat Buu and he was like a paste in the floor? yeah, AP alone can lower it regen eventually

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Shouldn’t Ki users get Matter Destruction or Regeneration Negation on their profiles before that’s used in matches?

 

[Rez]

it literally does, remember when Kid Buu started slapping Fat Buu and he was like a paste in the floor? yeah, AP alone can lower it regen eventually

Great now go ahead and make a crt than

 

[Bernkastelll]

Great now go ahead and make a crt than

Thats not even CRT worthy, then why?

 

[ThanatosX]

Idk about that crt but here is a different crt the ki blasts and molecular destruction topic is brought up frequently here

https://vsbattles.com/threads/super-spirit-bomb-ee.114352/#post-3664088

Something being brought up doesn't mean that it's accepted. If there is nothing that indicates that level of matter destruction in the profile and there is no CTR than that shouldn't be considered.

 

[Rez]

Thats not even CRT worthy, then why?

Because it's an already accepted ability

 

[Rez]

Something being brought up doesn't mean that it's accepted. If there is nothing that indicates that level of matter destruction in the profile and there is no CTR than that shouldn't be considered.

You should read the crt before commenting and I mean the complete thing

 

[Bernkastelll]

Anyways, its irrelevant, it would need to overpower Boros durability first

 

[ThanatosX]

You should read the crt before commenting and I mean the complete thing

If it's accepted, why there is nothing in the profiles that indicates any level of Regeneration Negation or Matter Destruction at all?

Even if in that Crt it was 100% accepted, it's still not applied. So, it can't be considered for this match regardless of how solid that is.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Because it's an already accepted ability

Shouldn’t Ki users get Matter Destruction or Regeneration Negation on their profiles before that’s used in matches?

 

[Rez]

Shouldn’t Ki users get Matter Destruction or Regeneration Negation on their profiles before that’s used in matches?

It's not regen neg yeah they should get something related to matter destruction probably but i won't say it's exactly matter destruction since they are doing it with ap instead of hax

 

[Bernkastelll]

Anyways, its irrelevant, it would need to overpower Boros durability first

It's not regen neg yeah they should get something related to matter destruction probably but i won't say it's exactly matter destruction since they are doing it with ap instead of hax

 

[Orange]

It's not regen neg yeah they should get something related to matter destruction probably but i won't say it's exactly matter destruction since they are doing it with ap instead of hax

But they are still destroying matter, so instead of matter hax maybe something like "people that are equal or above ssj2 level can destroy things in cellular level, and people equally to ssj3 or above can destroy things at molecular level "

 

[ThanatosX]

Anyways, voting Boros for the following reasons:

- Goku will have an hard time getting past Boros regeneration, since even after using his Meteoric Burster form for some time he was still able to regenerate after being blown to pieces by Saitama, and there is nothing that indicates that Goku will be able to go past such a level of regeneration in his profile.

- Boros' Meteoric Burster will give him a huge speed boost that will almost make him speed blitz Goku.

- After activating MB, he will try to end the fight as soon as possible and, using his fight with Saitama as a reference, one of the first things he will do will be BFRing Goku to space, something that he can do without many problems thanks to the speed gap and the huge LS difference.

So, in conclusion, I vote Boros for his regen, his speed boost, his LS advantage and a much easier in character wincon.

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Anyways, voting Boros for the following reasons:

- Goku will have an hard time getting past Boros regeneration, since even after using his Meteoric Burster form for some time he was still able to regenerate after being blown to pieces by Saitama, and there is nothing that indicates that Goku will be able to go past such a level of regeneration in his profile.

- Boros' Meteoric Burster will give him a huge speed boost that will almost make him speed blitz Goku.

- After activating MB, he will try to end the fight as soon as possible and, using his fight with Saitama as a reference, one of the first things he will do will be BFRing Goku to space, something that he can do without many problems thanks to the speed gap and the huge LS difference.

So, in conclusion, I vote Boros for his regen, his speed boost, his LS advantage and a much easier in character wincon.

B-but Goku broke a manga panel as kid meaning he's a gag character!

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

As far as i know, you can bypass up to mid-high regen with enough AP without the need of matter manipulation.

 

[Rez]

As far as i know, you can bypass up to mid-high regen with enough AP without the need of matter manipulation.

No not without feats

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

No not without feats

Yes? Unless something changed, you can atomize someone by pure AP just because the gap is big enough. At least I've seen that on many battles.

It starts on high regen where you can't bypass it through pure AP, since in high regen you are regenerating through pure energy. I've seen also this as an argument about why goku has no regen negation through Genkidama

However, as they said, unless there is something on DB's profile which indicates that they can negate regen just because they have higher AP, it should not be used

 

[Rez]

However, as they said, unless there is something on DB's profile which indicates that they can negate regen just because they have higher AP, it should not be used

It's not regen neg it's destruction at cellular level which is already accepted ability

 

[Bernkastelll]

Yes? Unless something changed, you can atomize someone by pure AP just because the gap is big enough.
This is literally DB case lol, they can overpower due their ki waves

 

[Bernkastelll]

It's not regen neg it's destruction at cellular level which is already accepted ability

not in profile, literally it isnt in the profiles, so no

 

[Rez]

Voting Goku for more being more skilled, ap advantage and also since ki blasts can destroy at molecular level

 

[Bernkastelll]

ki blasts can destroy at cellular level
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he would need to have a mega AP gap to do this

 

[Bernkastelll]

Anyways, this is starting to become the same thing being repeated, unfollowing gg

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Boros FRA