Aizen Upgrade (Possible)

[PaChi2]

Yhwach's moon level feat was casual. Afterwards, he absorbed Ichigo's powers (which should boost him) and launched a serious attack against Aizen. At this point Yhwach is rated as planet level. Wouldn't Aizen's dura also scale to this? Since Ichigo didnt take a hit from this post-absortion Yhwach, he shouldnt scale, tho.

Any thoughts?

 

[HokageMangaVox]

Yhwach can't absorb a bankai, he took his quincy, and hollow powers that were fused. [1] He did harm Aizen, after been serious.[2], [3] and Aizen couldn't tank his serious attacks, he had to regenerated later on.

Ichigo did took a hit from the same attack Aizen did, and survive. [4], [5], [6],[7],[8]

 

[PaChi2]

just to clarify, that wasnt ichigo, it was KS illusion.

Anyway, since Aizen's Moon dura comes from taking this attack, why is it rated as Moon when Yhwach is Planet level at this point?

 

[HokageMangaVox]

just to clarify, that wasnt ichigo, it was KS illusion.

Not at that moment, you see this was Aizen. [1], who lost an arm. He was behind Yhwach, Ichigo was in front of him. Ichigo also clarifies this. [2] as you see Ichigo, and Renji had arrive earlier. [3]

 

[PaChi2]

Aizen doesnt need to disguise as Ichigo, I mean, that could very well be just another illusion (Ichigo and Renji's first appearance and latter Ichigo's attack in which is "killed") while the real ichigo arrives at the end just to pierce Yhwach, thats how I understood the scene. And it would explain why Yhwach was surprised when another ichigo appeared and why Aizen said "so you think you are staring at ichigo".

But can you explain how Aizen is Moon level from taking an attack from a planet level being?

 

[HokageMangaVox]

That's just your opinion on how you think it happen, which doesn't explain Renji disappearence even do he was next to ichigo, and how did Aizen knew how Renji's bankai look or name was. Even Ichigo's new bankai for that matter. (Ichigo, and Renji where in the Dangai running towards the battlefield, and talking about their friendship so far. Why will Aizen need to create an illusion in another dimension.) Your theory has flaws on it, and therefore unacceptable.

 

[PaChi2]

That is not the point. Aizen is Moon level because he took the attack. Yhwach id planet level, not Moon level. If he didnt take the attack as you first said, he shouldnt be moon level to begin with.

 

[HokageMangaVox]

But can you explain how Aizen is Moon level from taking an attack from a planet level being?

Because Yhwach was not using his fullpower. Your intent of upgrade is just click bait to create a downgrade.

 

[HokageMangaVox]

That is not the point. Aizen is Moon level because he took the attack. Yhwach id planet level, not Moon level. If he didnt take the attack as you first said, he shouldnt be moon level to begin with.

Like I said, poor attempt to downgrade. Unfortunately, for you he did. [1], [2]

 

[Soldier_Blue]

just to clarify, that wasnt ichigo, it was KS illusion.
Anyway, since Aizen's Moon dura comes from taking this attack, why is it rated as Moon when Yhwach is Planet level at this point?

My best guess is this:

May be because casual Soul King Yhwach's best feat is moon level and the planet level shit requires him to use his full power and focus his energies a little.

 

[LordAizenSama]

I put him at that tier because I don't think it was that serious hit on Aizen.

EDIT: ^Pretty much this. Yhwach was more casual then serious I think, and it doesn't seem to fit too well in the grand scheme of things if it was Planet level, so I comprised and used Yhwachs casual feat as the basis for their rating. Probably a bit of a lowball but it's safer that way, I think.

 

[PaChi2]

I put him at that tier because I don't think it was that serious hit on Aizen.

Well, imo, aizen was a special war potential, it would be careless not to take him seriously. And, that chair could take Aizen's moon level reiatsu and was destroyed by Yhwach's attack... so the attack should be above moon level right?

 

[LordAizenSama]

I mean, Ichigo was a war potential and Yhwach dicked around not using his power either. Yhwach showed his carelessness by needlessly attacking Aizen and the chair, destroying the latter so Aizen can now fight at his "full" potential

A good point about the chair, but it really only works to solidify Aizens rating of At least moon level likely higher. I can't arbritarily place it at a higher tier and Planet level may be reaching.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Ichigo was the number 1 war potential and Yhwach dicked around. So it should come as no surprise that he dicked around with someone ranked lower on that list.

 

[PaChi2]

Okay, well, Yhwach didnt take Ichigo carelessly, he even said his bankai was dangerous and he broke it before he could use it and stole his powers (he dicked around while doing, but still, it seems too many preventions if he was so careless). But okay, if the moon level is a safe lowball, let it be (tho the chair was completely wiped out and aizen was undamaged by the attack).

 

[LordAizenSama]

Ichigo was the number 1 war potential and Yhwach dicked around. So it should come as no surprise that he dicked around with someone ranked lower on that list.

Indeed. though Ichigo being ranked the head war potential is a bit odd because at the time when we first heard the term "war potentials" Ichigo was only 7-b at the time. So I think he rated him as such for his potential danger for hindering Yhwachs Plans? or perhaps it was because of his quincy dna. It would make more sense thinking of it like that rather then AP because Aizen was sealed in Muken and therefore not a immediate threat, hence he was ranked lower.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

According to Askin, Ichigo was ranked high on that list for his "unlimited potential".

 

[PaChi2]

The topic has been discussed, you can close this whenever you want, Aizensama.

 

[LordAizenSama]

alright thanks for the good discussion, will do.

I may make another Bleach revision thread later. no upgrades or anything but just thoughts on something I found the other day.