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Ainz Ooal Gown VS Aqua(Konosuba)

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That is if Aqua can die at all, also it wouldn't be a resurrection but rather a teleport or self summon if she's alive in heaven.

Edit: also even if ainz were able to negate resurrection heaven is connected to not only one world/reality in Kono suba so she'd still be able to resurrect in other worlds and move back if u still take it as a resurrection of course, since it's very tricky how death works in Konosuba, and we have no way to know how it affects gods there.
 
MATE, argument invalid until she A) resist death hax and gains a resistance to them on her profile B)Gains that form of immortality on her profile. You can't argue from information that hasn't been approved
 
Even by only taking the information that is already there in her profile she has reality warping, existance erasure, power nullification and precognition. Isn't it enough with reality warping and power nullification to negate the effects of death spells? also with existance erasure she is capable of just bypassing any magic resistance Ainz has. Even then the way that death works in Konosuba is definetly not permanet, sure there is nothing there saying that she's not able to die but death has not the same effect in both shows which was my point.
 
That's really bad reasoning. J'zargo has reality warping, but he still only really wills fire into reality. Aqua is many things, but she is not a haxlord, and most of her abilities have restrictions beyond her stupidity.

And the death point is also pretty bad. Death isn't 100% permanent in Overlord either, resurrection is a thing. And in Konosuba people only go Isekai under specific circumstances, so death is permanent unless someone resurrect you.
 
death functioning differently is dealt with by verse equalization, (Meaning unless she has self ressurected she can't simply ressurect due to being a goddess. She has to have done so before), while power null and existence erasure are useful they aren't her first move, in chacter she is laible to turn undead, or some other holy spell.

Tell me how does her power null work? can it work on any ability or is it resticted? How does her existence erasure function? Is she liable to pull it out early on? What is the extent of her reality warping? What effects can it have? Precog? How far can she predict? In character how does this help her? (from my limited understanding aquas own intellegence is a major weakness.) Everything Ive heard leads me to the conclusion she's not getting off existence erasure before ainz death haxs her (as in character ainz first move in combat is death hax)
 
Why don't you go read ainz profile, check out all his resistances (He literally has turn undead resistance three) All his abilities, all his hax ect. Even if we assumed aqua was immune to death magic (Which we wouldn't as she has no resistance) Ainz has a skill that lets him bypass all immunities to death magic, Including the thing he uses it on being non living. He used it and killed oxygen, dirt, and the undead.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
That's really bad reasoning. J'zargo has reality warping, but he still only really wills fire into reality. Aqua is many things, but she is not a haxlord, and most of her abilities have restrictions beyond her stupidity.
And the death point is also pretty bad. Death isn't 100% permanent in Overlord either, resurrection is a thing. And in Konosuba people only go Isekai under specific circumstances, so death is permanent unless someone resurrect you.
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Restrictions if any should appear in her profile page anyways she does have power nullification, so she should be able to negate Ainz spells if she's not already resisting them. Also the conditions for someone to be isekai'd in Kono Suba are decided by the gods.

Since it's Aqua who would be sent to heaven if Ainz manages to kill her she would be able to decide to go to other worlds in the same way that a lesser goddess like Eris does, or even the same one, sure there are ways to resurrect people in Overlord, but just so happens that Aqua is one of the rulers in Kono Suba's heaven so sending her there would be kinda pointless.
 
Again unless you get that resurection added to her profile its pointless. She cant negate hax unless she has done so before. These aren't things you can make an argument with until they are on her profile. Thats how this site works.

So your argument for her self ressurection is one other god has done it? Unless theres confirmation all gods have this ability you can't claim aqua has it especially if she's never used it before.

Has she used her power null in character? When and where? How liable is she to pull it out as her first move? Power null can come in a variaty of flavors, What exactly has she nulled in the past? How long does it take her power null to take effect? Can she get it off before ainz thinks death? Your whole argument is riddled with holes and assumptions. Aqua in character, what does she do, Not what she can do but what she does. Is she liable to pull out any of these powers before ainz gets off his first move?

Aqua is dumb, this cripples her already low odds of winning as it means she's not laible to use the right ablities to overcome ainz.
 
Okay then let's say that the death spells work on her and that she can't just come back on her own, what do we have left? An angry lazy goddess that is also an asshole to undeads and more so to one that just happen to have killed her, she would just send to his way every single person that dies with any power, item, or weapon that they choose/can imagine (I bet this is why reality warping appears in Aqua's character profile) which has appeared in his show as a cannon and that she was doing for quite some time untill Kazuma showed up, so it would be just a matter of time till some random person killed by Ainz or that just died in his world or other worlds shows up and erases Ainz by thinking of it or eliminates him with any other hax.


This would be with Aqua on character and using only the powers that she has in her character profile and also with speed equalized or not, doesn't really matter if Ainz is afraid and/or just wants to start with time stop and any instant death spell, that again we don't know how would work on a Kono Suba's God/Goddess but this is assuming it works.
 
If she can't ressurect she lost the fight, she can't return to battle thus its a loss. Thats it, You need to create a crt if you want her to resist death and ressurect. Everything else you just mentioned? Pointless as the fight is over and the battle demands no outside help, she doesn't get to send people after ainz after loosing as thats not what this site deals with and sba forbids outside help.

Edit I dont understand what part of the rules of this site isn't peircing your skull! You can't argue things not on profiles, being a god doesn't offer immunities or resistance to hax. Thats not how this site works, there are rules either read them or atleast understand this you can't argue points not on the profile. The fight is over if one opponent dies and can't ressurect. Aqua can't send others after ainz because A she's already lost and B she cant use outside resources or help.
 
PS you want to discuss the after effects of such a battle? Head over to space battles, they have less strict rules and are more interested in discussing the after effects of such conflicts. This site doesn't cover those, it in fact has strict rules about how one obtains victory, after victory is obtained and the people vote thats it. the end of the discussion.

edit: If thats why she has reality warping than its not even combat applicable...
 
The idea of "they are from different verses so you can't assume it works" is just dumb. By that logic Nyarlatoteph can't do anything to a real wolrd humans mind by virtue of it not working likke the ones in cthulhu. The idea 9f taking that at face fault is just ridicolous.

And spacebattles also has a tendency to downplaying characters like hell, to the point that bullets killing an island buster is not an outlier, just a canon weakness. And the OP can disregard SBA if they so wish, but they need to actuallty mention that.

And your point about no outside help is also wrong. There is a thing called summoning. However, regardless of being a goddess, she can't just grap anyone and throw them back intothe real world, she has to adhere to rules as well. For exemple, at death she'd be thrown back at Kazuma and co. BFRing her.
 
Those are the rules, you want death immunity added? CRT, you want immoratality added? CRT. We cant act as if aquas status as a goddess grants her these until a crt is made, disscussed and approved. We can't debate things that haven't been Approved.

Summoning implies she is pulling something activley to her as one of her abilities. Such as a spell, skill or act of will power. That is not what was described above. IE going out and finding random people, going out and sending the souls of the dead, or asking for help from others strictly forbidden in a valid match. Saying that this fight is totally invalid due to the massive speed gap.


SBA are assumed without op ruling so Im not sure what your point is, I only pointed to space battles as these threads don't count the after effects of such battle beyond the twenty four hour period.
 
Yes... you need to prove that she has the abilities that she is claimed to have.

Going to the afterlife, taking someone's soul and making them fight is absolutely allowed by SBA. As long as you have a way to transport a character to you, they can help you.

That's also wrong. Incapacitation is a thing that gets counted in twenty four hour thing, but that's because it's impossible for most character to knock someone out for much larger amounts of time. A battle can count anything the thread maker wants it to, but there is a standard so that it's easier for people to make threads. There is nothing in space battles that can't be done here, except some things will not get added to the profiles.
 
Bfr for over twenty four hours is considered a victory, its why slime cant run away for a billion years and emerge victorous by waiting for his strength to grow.

Nothing I just heard implies she can pull the character to her, if so its a different matter, from the above statments it sounds like aqua would need to die/flee to the afterlife first, fleeing is incredibly out of character so the only way she can send the souls of the dead is for her to first die.

Also, she can find the random souls of the dead, but cant ask eris for help?

As we have no reason to believe she can return herself after death its either a victory by straight up death, or a victory by bfr.

I just said unless the thread maker specifies otherwise sba is allowed
 
With said slime having time travel, it can. And the OP could say that "no, BFR has to be permanent to work." if they want to.

Beyond the fact that she can take a soul of a dead person and send them there? She couldn't because of her being stuck with Kazuma, but otherwise she totally could.

Praying for a deity is allowed, so as long as she can reach Eris and ask for her help, she could. But Eris wouldn't really do that, because they have rules to follow.

It's a victory by BFR because she'd be sent to Kauma post death. Otherwise, she could send people to kill Ainz from afar, and by extension he would not have put her somewhere where she cannot affect him.

Yes. But your point is made moot regardless. Spacebattles is not more flexible for doing something that can be done here as well. This site simply has base assumptions, while spacebattles doesn't. Neither is better than the other in versatility of the possible threads.
 
So, it's been a while since last i checked but since apparently sending people to kill Ainz is allowed isn't this a win for Aqua even with speed equal? Also Aqua's supposed to be in a mortal body while stuck with Kazuma, Ainz killing her wouldn't send her back to kazuma but rather to heaven to her former godly state while also putting her out of reach. And since it's cannon that there is no limit to the powers that she can give to souls before their reincarnation i'd say it would be just a matter of time right?

Edit: the only reason to believe that she would be sent to Kazuma would be the assumption that the other gods consider that one life was not enough to fulfill her duty with Kazuma and force her to ressurrect and keep going and since it's not specified where the battle ocurrs it could mean send her back to ainz to fight and this time catch ainz with the guard down not expecting her to resurrect, this if we go by this assumption of her being forced to live and the fight happening in the world of kono suba if not in that world tho we would end up with Aqua alive and Ainz alive aka inconclusive.
 
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