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Adding The Low Dimensional Game Verse
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The Low Dimensional Game Series is made up of two web novels, one has been translated into English by Human Translators, and the other has been Machine Translated. The Cosmology page that the verse is based on uses quotes from both novels and I have been told that in order for it to be accepted I need more than just the Raws being present I also need a Human Translation.
The first profile for the verse also uses quotes from the second novel in reasoning for their abilities. For this, I was planning on making the links for each ability a picture of both the raw and the MTL so people can translate them themselves.
Outside of that, there is still the argument of whether the verse actually reaches High 1-A or not. I would prefer to have the verse's current Cosmology rated before I potentially spend money getting the MTL Translations and quotes verified through a commission.
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Okay. Thank you for the explanation. That seems reasonable.
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What do you think that we should do here?
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You don't need to hire someone to translate the parts you need. You can use a mtl or a translation done by yourself as long as the original text in chinese is present in the blog near the english one so it can be verified.
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Ok wait so does the Cosmology Page need or not need Human Translations cause I feel like I'm being told two different things. It sounded like Ant, Pain, and Agnaa are saying it's necessary.
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Text translated by an actual translator is always better, but if not accesible and lets not go for the route of paying money someone to do such things for just a profile as it will cost a lot.
In two previous threads we agreed that as long as the original text in its native language is present then an english one done through a machine or a self-translated one is acceptable as we can verify.
In two previous threads we agreed that as long as the original text in its native language is present then an english one done through a machine or a self-translated one is acceptable as we can verify.
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Ok, I see thanks.
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Seems like an okay explanation.
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Since only half is MLT, I guess it is fine
As long as the Raws are beside it
As long as the Raws are beside it
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Thank you for the replies.
So can somebody write a post with sufficiently indepth arguments/explanations for the suggested tiers/statistics here please, so knowledgeable members can evaluate it?
So can somebody write a post with sufficiently indepth arguments/explanations for the suggested tiers/statistics here please, so knowledgeable members can evaluate it?
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Fang Xiu's Universe & Possibly Others (Infinite R > F Dimensions each Infintesimalizing the last) High 1-B
Space-Time Rulers (Hierarchy of Infinite Higher Dimensional Beings who can affect Universes like Fang Xiu's by existing and effect the Space-Time Origin) Infinitely High 1-B & Low 1-A
Endless Space-Time (Infinitely Larger than Endless Higher Dimensional universes, including Fang Xiu's and potentially others like it. Its collapse can cause everything to be reduced to nothingness including Space-Time Rulers.) Infinitely Low 1-A
Space-Time Origin (Foundation of the Endless Space-Time and its collapse can cause everything to be reduced to nothingness including Space-Time Rulers and cause them to lose their powers.) Infinitely Low 1-A
Outer Dimensions (Dimensions that encompass endless universes with the Endless Space-Time just being one universe. A Higher Dimensional Universe in a higher Outer Dimension would see the Endless Space-Time in its entirety through an R >F Difference, making it 1-A. There would be an Endless Number of such Universes and Endless even Higher Dimensional Universes up to infinite dimensions.) 1-A+
Source Form (Zero-dimensional existence of a concept that act's as the source of all power for all things, including the power that keeps universes from collapsing. Everything from Matter, Space & Time are all Source Forms in their most fundamental level.) 1-A+
Creators (Everything is a part of their dreams only existing because they dream it to be, no matter what it is everything occurs due to their ideas even the destruction of universes or the birth of planets or even a single being. Even Space and Source Form merely exist due to their consciousness thinking them to be, and when they awaken all things they dreamt will end. Although no superiority is shown through interactions, Creators create other Creators from their dreams with the Creators they dream up only being born because they dreamt of it.) Baseline High 1-A, Immeasurably High 1-A
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Thank you for the explanation.
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What do you think about this?
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I don't particularly agree with Immeasurably High 1-A, but the rest (as long as R>F counts for an additional Aleph level) look fine.
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All this is fine and is valid as long as there are no other contradictions
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Ok added raws to the entire Cosmology page wherever it was required.
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As before, I'm not interested in evaluating the tiers of verses that I'm not already working on.
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Thank youfor the evaluations. It seems best to wait for a bit more input before we apply this though.
Thank you for helping out.
Okay. No problem.
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Was asked to comment. Anyway, my opinion is largely the same as Qaws
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Everything up to Low 1-A seems fine to me as a proposal, all-in-all. From my understanding, it seems like there are universes of all numbers of dimensions, up to infinitely-many, and then there is an infinite void encompassing all of them (The Endless Space-Time), and then the realm of the Creators where everything is seen as a dream. Straightforward enough, it seems.
That said, though, some of the suggestions confuse me a bit. You placed a 11-C end in the Creators' rating on the basis that they can apparently chose whether to be 0-dimensional or higher-dimensional at will, but from the looks of it, it sounds like the verse just so happens to treat 0-dimensional space as being superior to everything else in the setting, given they're stated to dream things into existence from there:
Moreover it doesn't seem like there's any hierarchy between the Creators, as others have pointed out above. The excerpt where Lu Zhiyu realizes he has been a part of a Creator's dream seems like it just applies to his previous, human self, since he comes to this realization when he sees the Earth being dreamed up by one of the Creators beside him:
You're obviously free to correct me if I'm wrong, but from the looks of this, it just sounds like Lu Zhiyu always ascends to the zero-dimension and, becoming a Creator, dreams a universe that has another version of himself inside of it, who also ascends to the zero-dimension and does the same thing, and so on and so forth. I don't see the need for any kind of hierarchy to be involved there.
The bit about "outer dimensions" confuses me, too. I don't really see the existence of some further hierarchy follows from this excerpt:
And nor from the other ones in the blog. I may have missed something, so, you're free to point out any bits you believe are essential to your point. But, so, far, all I see here is the Creators being baseline 1-A.
That said, though, some of the suggestions confuse me a bit. You placed a 11-C end in the Creators' rating on the basis that they can apparently chose whether to be 0-dimensional or higher-dimensional at will, but from the looks of it, it sounds like the verse just so happens to treat 0-dimensional space as being superior to everything else in the setting, given they're stated to dream things into existence from there:
Moreover it doesn't seem like there's any hierarchy between the Creators, as others have pointed out above. The excerpt where Lu Zhiyu realizes he has been a part of a Creator's dream seems like it just applies to his previous, human self, since he comes to this realization when he sees the Earth being dreamed up by one of the Creators beside him:
You're obviously free to correct me if I'm wrong, but from the looks of this, it just sounds like Lu Zhiyu always ascends to the zero-dimension and, becoming a Creator, dreams a universe that has another version of himself inside of it, who also ascends to the zero-dimension and does the same thing, and so on and so forth. I don't see the need for any kind of hierarchy to be involved there.
The bit about "outer dimensions" confuses me, too. I don't really see the existence of some further hierarchy follows from this excerpt:
And nor from the other ones in the blog. I may have missed something, so, you're free to point out any bits you believe are essential to your point. But, so, far, all I see here is the Creators being baseline 1-A.
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That's fair I was confused on how to rate that since they are technically Zero-Dimensional but it's fine to remove that part.
Another thing I have no issue with removing is it was simply based on them dreaming each other into existence.
The Outer Dimensions is the only name I could find to describe this so I went with it. However, the Hierarchy does exist.
Simply put the Endless Space-Time is confirmed to be a singular dream of The Creator (Lu Zhiyu), not something constructed from multiple dreams of every Creator. (I go further in-depth timeline-wise when it comes to that stuff on the blog.)
The bases of the Hierarchy is following the logic that the Creators perpetually generate singular of varying dimensions.
At the same time while the Endless Space-Time is stated to be multi-dimensional there is no proof that it is an infinite-dimensional universe/dream.
All we know for certain is that the Endless Space-Time is a singular universe dreamt up by Lu Zhiyu as a Creator. And we also know there are endless other universes of varying dimensions.
Unless we assume the Endless Space-Time is infinite-dimensional some of those endless universes would have to be higher than the Endless Space-Time and some would have to be lower as we know these universes go as low as 2-D and as high as Inf-D
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It would make no sense to do so though.
There are only two possibilities as it stands, one is that the Endless Space-Time has finite dimensions guaranteeing there are endless universes above it in dimensionality. Or the second would be assuming it has infinite dimensions which would still make it 1-A+.
There's no situation here where one of this two isn't the case.
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And if there is any doubt, it is just straight-up confirmed here. It states clearly that there are other dimensions with their own universes.
At the time the "Crystal Wall Universe" was the only universe in Endless Space-Time so it has to be referring to stuff outside of Endless Space-Time.
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Bump
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The Endless Space-Time being a space of finite dimensions would just downgrade it from Low 1-A instead, since that rating would require it to be larger than infinite-dimensional universes to begin with. Following that train of thought, the Creators would still be Baseline 1-A, or Low 1-A at worst, since then the universes of varying dimensions wouldn't be the ones inside of the Endless Space-Time, but outside of it instead.
So, I really don't see any scenario where High 1-A is a thing here, so far.
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I'm sorry am I being confusing?
The Endless Space-Time contains universes. Some are higher dimensional, and others are infinite-dimensional.
The Endless Space-Time in its entirety is infinitely larger than those infinite-dimensional universes and is multidimensional in and of itself. (Low 1-A)
There are Endless Universes outside of the Endless Space-Time that are just like it.
Some of them are lower in dimensions than the Endless Space-Time and there are Infinitely Higher Dimensions above it forming a Hierarchy.
Just one Higher Dimensional Universe above the Endless Space-Time would view it akin to fiction and therefore 1-A.
An even Higher Dimensional Universe would view that one as fiction-making it another layer into 1-A. This continues infinitely reaching 1-A+.
Even Infinite DImensional Universes exist within outer dimensions, and everything discussed is like a dream to the Creators.
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Here is a clear mental image of what this looks like.
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Thank you for the reply. So what changes do you think that we should apply here exactly?
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