Again, yes sure. Its totally valid that if Piccolo can do Mahouko, that doesnt means every Namekian can do Mahouko. But we are not talking about any Namekian. We are talking about a Namekian who is by birth, meant to do better than Piccolo. He may not be able to launch a Mahouko, but sure would launch a Pretty Thick Ki Blast. Thus its not meaningless. Zamasu is entitled to his statement. King Kai is only there to validate that even kais can create functions or interact with Concepts so that Zamasus case doesn't feels outrageous since he is a pre-existing proof of that Kais can do those stuffs. He doesnt speaks for everyone but his doing is just a supporting argument for Zamasu's capacity since he is inferior to Zamasu and built such techniques on his own. Thus Zamasu doing something of similar principle is validated. Even if non other Kais can interact with concepts...these two can, which is my argument.
I'm pretty sure we have given abilities off of statements. Doesn't Alien X EE come from a statement?
If so then this likely won't pass, since if IZ is 2-C, then that'll make everyone jump from 3-A to 2-C which don't seem likely. Especially since that would mean they'll scale to 12 universes.
Sorry for changing the route of your argument. I was trying to figure out how this site works.
AP: Well we for sure know every Macroverse in the DB Multiverse are completely separated from each other by having Individual separate Space Continuum. Time on the other hand feels like being Interconnected through all of the Multiverse and Dimensions So there's a possibility that Zamasu was spreading through the Multiverse but with no substantial proof. All we know is that Zamasu took over Universe 7 of some certain Future and was spreading among all the other Universe 7 timelines or the Main Timeline at least. Thus he is Low-2C instead of being straight 2C I believe. And again, entire future timeline may only refer to a certain future timeline of Universe 7 rather than the entire Multiverse of future if that makes sense and latter is very unlikely.
IIRC, that is no longer qualified for Immeasurable, or it is not enough. Considering how fucky it is to get immeasurable speed, I highly doubt that it will get accepted.
wait its still qualified though
Nope. Spirit Bomb is not a technique that shares similarities with anyone whom you have named there, so using them as an example is of no good. It completely eliminates "Evil" and leaves everything else intact. The closest technique like that is the Evil Containment Technique that was developed by Master Roshi’s Teacher....which by the way ignores its targets power and seals it off, that is if....the target is "Evil". The reason why Spirit Bomb technique is special, is because of its trait of eliminating the concept of evil completely that even the Hells Soul Purifiers can’t do but just contain it instead. Though those machines are non-canon and only appear in Fusion Reborn movie if I'm correct.
I'm done, its just that I hate to keep arguments incomplete.
Its not necessary for it to be an instant KO, just having the functionality is enough to prove the claim. There is also that Power>HAX logic of DB too.
Power>HAX. Should apply for anything in DB at least. Spirit Bombs used against them weren't enough. Which doesn't debunks how Spirit Bomb functions. And lets just drop this topic for now instead and focus on the actual topic.
We've had this discussion over and over again wrt DBZ/S and it is generally not true. There's also the fact that Spirit Bomb didn't work on weaker enemies but did on the stronger one
Well I was not there so I will look into them as soon as possible to either correct my self or the others. And its literally Power>HAX law of DB thats in work. It only worked once in canon and thats against Kid buu, other than that exact case, it wasn't powerful enough which has no connection with how it functions.
It does and the name of its type is Lesser Realist Concept. "Destroying very essence of Evil" does falls under this sort of Conceptual Manipulation. And Not all HAX ignores AP. Hakai is a good example of that. Spirit Bomb would work on Jiren doesnt debunks its functionality. It only means whoever thought it would work meant about Jiren being overwhelmed while countering. Not killing him in the match and get Goku disqualified. Thus Jiren being Good or Evil is irrelevant for them to think Spirit Bomb would work on Jiren.
You don't recall what exactly?
Hax by definition ignores AP. Hakai is a bad example since that's just a weakness of the hax, since most other characters can EE characters regardless of their power.
Sorry for you but Goku time-stop resistance already got removed
Can we scale / upgrade Zeno speed from Whis and GP?
Wasn't Zeno unable to follow the battle of the Hakaishin ?
