A small upgrade to zamasu, but wity the cost of downgrading The future warrior From Xv2

[Dagoth_OwO]

Actually about the Future Warrior. It seems that there's quite noticeable evidence that Mentor Zamasu is actually a post Future Trunks arc Zamasu who got erased from existence. He states that he's gonna enact his Zero Mortals Plan once again implying that he's done it before, he knows who Zeno is whom he only met mere moments before he got erased in the anime and even conceded that he had no way of beating Zeno, he know's about Goku Black and even states that he might have chosen the Future Warrior's body instead of Goku's had he know that the FW existed meaning that the body switch has happened already, he knows who Trunks is noting that he stood in the way of his plan past tense and he has obtained immortality from the Super DB's.



Considering how Mentor Zamasu is aware of all these things, this would imply that Mentor Zamasu has actually experienced these events before. And if Mentor Zamasu has experienced the FT arc then that would mean that he did regenerate from Zeno's erasure.

 

[KingTempest]

True, but it’s still high godly. It can be a note on the bottom of the page.

Yeah I'm fine w/ high godly for sure, it's just the matter of the speed of it

 

[Tarang123]

Yeah I'm fine w/ high godly for sure, it's just the matter of the speed of it

Yeah, it could be a note that it’s not combat applicable

 

[Vietthai96]

well overtime is enough though

 

[Antvasima]

I have unlocked both of the pages:

Fused Zamasu (Super Dragon Ball Heroes)

Fusion Zamasu (合体 ザマス, Gattai Zamasu) is a fusion born of the union between Goku Black (Present Zamasu in Goku's body) and Future Zamasu through the Potara earrings. After being erased by Zen'ō he made a deal with Hearts to defeat the Omniking and continue his "Zero mortal Plan". Tier: 2-A Name...

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Future Warrior (Xenoverse 2)

The Future Warrior (未来戦士) is a custom character and main protagonist in the video game Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2. Tier: High 4-C | 3-C | 3-C | 2-C | Low 1-C | Low 1-C | Low 1-C with racial-based Awoken Skills, far higher with various Awoken Skills Key: Saiyan Saga | Frieza Saga | Cell Saga |...

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Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Antvasima]

Also, the correct wording for this sort of situation is "over time". "Overtime" is when, for example, you work more than the standards hours for a job, or a football game duration is extended. Or that is how I have understood it anyway.

 

[Vietthai96]

Tell me here when you are done.

Well you should also open Hearts and Lagss profiles

 

[CheatHydra]

So what has been decided here? High-Godly has been agreed for sure but how is it going to be applied with the "over time" and all? Note at the bottom?

 

[Antvasima]

I have now opened the following profile pages:

Hearts
Lagss
Future Warrior (Xenoverse 2)
Fused Zamasu (Super Dragon Ball Heroes)

 

[Antvasima]

So what has been decided here? High-Godly has been agreed for sure but how is it going to be applied with the "over time" and all? Note at the bottom?

Preferably within a parenthesis in the powers and abilities section for Zamasu.

 

[Tarang123]

Preferably within a parenthesis in the powers and abilities section for Zamasu.

Perhaps a note that clarified that it’s not combat applicable?

 

[Antvasima]

That can be done as well if you wish, yes.

 

[Tarang123]

I've edited Zamasu's Regen. Perhaps you can add the note?

I can’t rn, but someone else could

 

[CR_Catinho]

Nothing suggests it was instantaneous, and the fact that it takes us a period of time before we see him again implies it's overtime. Or at least it'd be the minimal suggestion.

If someone has proof of instantaneous then go ahead

a very unecesary restriction , especially when there no time in the 1st place , the whole timestream was erased , how do you even define a time frame ?

he was erased in every era so whenever or whatever era he comes back in it's instant anyway .

this isn't a case where you can say it's over time

 

[Rez]

Yeah thats a good point. So what you're saying is "Mid-Godly; High-Godly overtime;". Something like that?

Just write this since kingtempest agreed with it

 

[Orange]

Yeah I'm fine w/ high godly for sure, it's just the matter of the speed of it

We don't have enough evidence for overtime or instantly.
The likely good of him having regen overtime requires much more assumptions than him doing it in an instant.

 

[Orange]

a very unecesary restriction , especially when there no time in the 1st place , the whole timestream was erased , how do you even define a time frame ?

he was erased in every era so whenever or whatever era he comes back in it's instant anyway .

this isn't a case where you can say it's over time

I agree with this sentiment

 

[Roun12]

While we don't know the exact timeframe, in the anime, Goku escapes from Zeno's erasure, talks to everyone in the past for a while, and then goes to retrieve Future Zeno so the regen could be as fast as a couple minutes.

 

[CheatHydra]

Well i've added Zamasu's High-Godly regen. I won't add any note since its still being debated on. I guess i should add High-Godly regeneration negation to Hearts, right?

 

[Orange]

Well i've added Zamasu's High-Godly regen. I won't add any note since its still being debated on. I guess i should add High-Godly regeneration negation to Hearts, right?

Hearts via his EE [super hearts I think] and lagss

 

[Vietthai96]

just let me edit profile, lmao

 

[Saiyan40009]

I don't see why we should put overtime what is the argument against it being instantaneous now

 

[Orange]

Actually about the Future Warrior. It seems that there's quite noticeable evidence that Mentor Zamasu is actually a post Future Trunks arc Zamasu who got erased from existence. He states that he's gonna enact his Zero Mortals Plan once again implying that he's done it before, he knows who Zeno is whom he only met mere moments before he got erased in the anime and even conceded that he had no way of beating Zeno, he know's about Goku Black and even states that he might have chosen the Future Warrior's body instead of Goku's had he know that the FW existed meaning that the body switch has happened already, he knows who Trunks is noting that he stood in the way of his plan past tense and he has obtained immortality from the Super DB's.



Considering how Mentor Zamasu is aware of all these things, this would imply that Mentor Zamasu has actually experienced these events before. And if Mentor Zamasu has experienced the FT arc then that would mean that he did regenerate from Zeno's erasure.

Then I guess this zamasu would get it to abd so will FW2?
We should wait before updating the FW2, because this is a big point

 

[CheatHydra]

Hearts via his EE [super hearts I think] and lagss

Done and done

 

[Orange]

I don't see why we should put overtime what is the argument against it being instantaneous now

I don't think there is besides "well we don't know"
Nothing indicates it's overtime.

 

[Orange]

Done and done

Thank you.
What's left is FW, which thanks to dagooth the possibility of him getting high godly is there, so we should wait and see what staff and people think about it.
good job, here a cookie

 

[KingTempest]

Fine, instant works

 

[Lormac_CC]

Personally, I don't see why it shouldn't be overtime. Do anything indicate that it was instantaneous

 

[KingTempest]

Personally, I don't see why it shouldn't be overtime. Do anything indicate that it was instantaneous

a very unecesary restriction , especially when there no time in the 1st place , the whole timestream was erased , how do you even define a time frame ?

 

[Vietthai96]

wait for me, i fix some part at Zamasu profile

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Time can be very incosistant in fiction, authors probably didn't knew how time works there, and Zamasu lasted a good chunk of time before appearing, there isn't any proof that he regenerated instantly, or, what he was even doing the time we didn't have him on screen?, if It was really Instant, we should've seen him way before.

 

[Orange]

Also we see zamasu's regen, which happens instantly

 

[Vietthai96]

Time can be very incosistant in fiction, authors probably didn't knew how time works there, and Zamasu lasted a good chunk of time before appearing, there isn't any proof that he regenerated instantly, or, what he was even doing the time we didn't have him on screen?, if It was really Instant, we should've seen him way before.

why should he appear, also this is DBH, not DBS who never regen, he could also regen else where we don't even see

Edit: sorry for wrong word

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

aside from CC's timeline being different from DBS's, there's also the fact that Zamasu was witn Hearts and co the whole time, which was revealed just at the end of the Prison Planet arc.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

while should he appear, also this is DBH, not DBS who never regen, he could also regen else where we don't even see

Exactly that's the issue, the fact that there is zero explanations of if he regenerated instantly, or what he even did the whole time he was off screen kinda add problems to this......

 

[Orange]

Exactly that's the issue, the fact that there is zero explanations of if he regenerated instantly, or what he even did the whole time he was off screen kinda add problems to this......

Later on we see him regenerating.
.... and you wouldn't guess it, guess what? It happened instantly

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Later on we see him regenerating.
.... and you wouldn't guess it, guess what? It happened instantly

But I mean, he was completely annihilated by Zeno, in his later fights he wasn't even EE'd, so he regenerated faster.

 

[Orange]

But I mean, he was completely annihilated by Zeno, in his later fights he wasn't even EE'd

So we have no evidence that he regened overtime.
We saw him regenerating instantly.
Time was destroyed, history and time itself was erased, the time stream is nada.
Vs
Assumption that he regened overtime because.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Tbf I don't usually buy "it's fiction" kind of arguments. I think Catinho explained it pretty well, we can't establish a timeframe in a timeless place.

 

[Vietthai96]

he could be....well......regen backward in time