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About the Herald of Thunder
So, currently, Thor's last key is rated as this:
The fact most of the links seem to be dead put aside, there is the fact that, for some reason, we consider these feats to be exclusive to his Herald of Thunder form. This is extremely weird, because not only does Thor display similar levels of Power Absorption even in his regular All-Father state (The scene itself being a showing of him casually returning to the Herald of Thunder form at will by forcibly taking the power from Galactus), but the Herald of Thunder form itself was just Thor being imbued with the Power Cosmic by regular Galactus. To suggest that it randomly made him that much stronger in all regards is quite unfounded, and not even alluded to, in the story.
So, these justifications should preferably be moved to Thor's All-Father key, and while HoT Thor retains them, he isn't to be seen as the exclusive holder of them.
Chicanery
Long story short: Avengers Assemble: Omega happened, and tomfoolery came about.
Basically, as it turns out, Thor can tap into the Phoenix Fire latent within him (Also a long story) to do cosmic feats. The cosmic feat in question, for reference, being him contributing to holding back the remnants of the First Firmament that were flooding back into reality and threatening to erase the whole multiverse, in this context all of Eternity, for obvious reasons.
Although the feat itself is an outlier for the other Phoenix Hosts that helped with it, it isn't for for Thor, since this is the first time he's ever showcased this ability, and such there really isn't much that it actually contradicts. So, Thor should probably get another justification for his "Up to High 1-A" rating: Not only can he reach that high through Power Absorption and the God Blast, he can also do it through the Phoenix Fire.
More Chicanery
The next part is a tad more controversial, but bear with me here.
So, Thor Annual 2023. M.O.D.O.K somehow uses the Bifrost to access the full power of Yggdrasil, and with his new power, he christens himself as "M.Y.T.H.O.S", overwrites reality and takes over the world. Thor comes to confront him, gets quickly dispatched and set to flee for his troubles. Notably, Thor says that a single blast from M.Y.T.H.O.S tears him apart, "piece by piece."
And as a brief reminder from elsewhere:
Anyway: Come Round 2, though, and Thor says some... Interesting shit, to say the least. More specifically, he says that the All-Father's power has been stolen, indicating that he doesn't have the Odinforce in him because of M.Y.T.H.O.S' machinations. And yet, as he says, he still has another power: "My belief in myself. The power to keep standing. The power to keep fighting. The power of my heart. The power of Thor." And this allows him to endure several attacks from M.Y.T.H.O.S before his power just... runs out? Thor then beats him by hitting him really hard with a hammer, but the comic does make it clear that Yggdrasil's energy is still inside of M.O.D.O.K, hence Thor needs to defeat him for the tree to heal, and for the world to return to normalcy.
So, is Thor High 1-A now????
Fret not, there is explanation: From a glance, this talk about The Power of Thor™ may sound like the usual shlock that wouldn't be out of place in a battle shounen, but, there is actual precedent for it, more specifically because several storylines, both older and recent, make it clear that Thor is... special, to say the least.
In Avengers 1,000,000 B.C, for instance, Thor's cries as a baby produced storms that shook all of Yggdrasil. Elsewhere, I called this feat an outlier, and that wasn't far wrong. However, a more accurate assessment would be that it was misapplied: It doesn't apply to Thor as he normally is, but rather to the latent inner power that, in rare occcasions, comes out when he needs it, which the story actively emphasizes when it talks about Thor's incoming birth. For instance, here, it's stated that Thor's strength is such that he may destroy the world even before he is born.
This inner power, elsewhere, is referred to as Thor's life-force, his very essence, which is also the source of the God Blast, and we already know that the God Blast consistently allows Thor to harm cosmic entities that are otherwise way above his paygrade. In fact, as that scene shows, Thor's life-force is (Or at least was) actually too much for even Mjolnir to handle, and the thing actually shatters from the strain of channeling it against Exitar. In Thor's current profile, we even acknowledge the scene where a God Blast takes out Zelia, who had stolen the Odinforce at the time.
For another demonstration of this: In Thor Corps #3, Demonstaff uses his power to break down the barrier between realities from the void between them, and does so to the extent that Eternity himself is mortally wounded and the very distinction between time and space starts to fall apart. In the next issue, when the damage finally reaches its critical point and the dimensions are about to collapse on each other, four God Blasts are enough to keep reality's walls steady, though only temporarily.
And let's not forget that it's the God Blast that makes the Black Winter bleed during Cates' run of Thor.
So Thor's inner essence is indeed consistently written as something that, when channeled, puts him up to par with cosmic things. In fact, Astonishing Thor #3 has Thor himself muse that, though his physical form is bound by 3-dimensional space, his inner divinity is not. It in fact transcends dimensions, again hammering in home that Thor's inner power and potential go vastly beyond his regular state of existence.
So, in summary: Thor, even in his base state, should have an "up to High 1-A" high-end, for when he is fully tapping into his life-essence.
Also, one more thing: Currently the following is part of Thor's 3-C justification:
So,, the "galactic explosion" in question was in fact the birth of a new Celestial. The explosion itself was just the newborn energies expanding and then contracting to take the shape of the Celestial they belong to, and as such they are itself the power of that Celestial. So right now, we are basically saying Thor scales above that explosion, which is to say that he scales above the Celestials, which is obviously absurd. And that's putting aside the fact my man is literally being rated at 3-C off of harming High 1-Bs.
So, this should be removed, and Thor should probably just scale from the universe-shaking feats, and the feats in Silver Surfer's profile.
So, currently, Thor's last key is rated as this:
The fact most of the links seem to be dead put aside, there is the fact that, for some reason, we consider these feats to be exclusive to his Herald of Thunder form. This is extremely weird, because not only does Thor display similar levels of Power Absorption even in his regular All-Father state (The scene itself being a showing of him casually returning to the Herald of Thunder form at will by forcibly taking the power from Galactus), but the Herald of Thunder form itself was just Thor being imbued with the Power Cosmic by regular Galactus. To suggest that it randomly made him that much stronger in all regards is quite unfounded, and not even alluded to, in the story.
So, these justifications should preferably be moved to Thor's All-Father key, and while HoT Thor retains them, he isn't to be seen as the exclusive holder of them.
Chicanery
Long story short: Avengers Assemble: Omega happened, and tomfoolery came about.
Basically, as it turns out, Thor can tap into the Phoenix Fire latent within him (Also a long story) to do cosmic feats. The cosmic feat in question, for reference, being him contributing to holding back the remnants of the First Firmament that were flooding back into reality and threatening to erase the whole multiverse, in this context all of Eternity, for obvious reasons.
Although the feat itself is an outlier for the other Phoenix Hosts that helped with it, it isn't for for Thor, since this is the first time he's ever showcased this ability, and such there really isn't much that it actually contradicts. So, Thor should probably get another justification for his "Up to High 1-A" rating: Not only can he reach that high through Power Absorption and the God Blast, he can also do it through the Phoenix Fire.
More Chicanery
The next part is a tad more controversial, but bear with me here.
So, Thor Annual 2023. M.O.D.O.K somehow uses the Bifrost to access the full power of Yggdrasil, and with his new power, he christens himself as "M.Y.T.H.O.S", overwrites reality and takes over the world. Thor comes to confront him, gets quickly dispatched and set to flee for his troubles. Notably, Thor says that a single blast from M.Y.T.H.O.S tears him apart, "piece by piece."
And as a brief reminder from elsewhere:
Anyway: Come Round 2, though, and Thor says some... Interesting shit, to say the least. More specifically, he says that the All-Father's power has been stolen, indicating that he doesn't have the Odinforce in him because of M.Y.T.H.O.S' machinations. And yet, as he says, he still has another power: "My belief in myself. The power to keep standing. The power to keep fighting. The power of my heart. The power of Thor." And this allows him to endure several attacks from M.Y.T.H.O.S before his power just... runs out? Thor then beats him by hitting him really hard with a hammer, but the comic does make it clear that Yggdrasil's energy is still inside of M.O.D.O.K, hence Thor needs to defeat him for the tree to heal, and for the world to return to normalcy.
So, is Thor High 1-A now????
Fret not, there is explanation: From a glance, this talk about The Power of Thor™ may sound like the usual shlock that wouldn't be out of place in a battle shounen, but, there is actual precedent for it, more specifically because several storylines, both older and recent, make it clear that Thor is... special, to say the least.
In Avengers 1,000,000 B.C, for instance, Thor's cries as a baby produced storms that shook all of Yggdrasil. Elsewhere, I called this feat an outlier, and that wasn't far wrong. However, a more accurate assessment would be that it was misapplied: It doesn't apply to Thor as he normally is, but rather to the latent inner power that, in rare occcasions, comes out when he needs it, which the story actively emphasizes when it talks about Thor's incoming birth. For instance, here, it's stated that Thor's strength is such that he may destroy the world even before he is born.
This inner power, elsewhere, is referred to as Thor's life-force, his very essence, which is also the source of the God Blast, and we already know that the God Blast consistently allows Thor to harm cosmic entities that are otherwise way above his paygrade. In fact, as that scene shows, Thor's life-force is (Or at least was) actually too much for even Mjolnir to handle, and the thing actually shatters from the strain of channeling it against Exitar. In Thor's current profile, we even acknowledge the scene where a God Blast takes out Zelia, who had stolen the Odinforce at the time.
For another demonstration of this: In Thor Corps #3, Demonstaff uses his power to break down the barrier between realities from the void between them, and does so to the extent that Eternity himself is mortally wounded and the very distinction between time and space starts to fall apart. In the next issue, when the damage finally reaches its critical point and the dimensions are about to collapse on each other, four God Blasts are enough to keep reality's walls steady, though only temporarily.
And let's not forget that it's the God Blast that makes the Black Winter bleed during Cates' run of Thor.
So Thor's inner essence is indeed consistently written as something that, when channeled, puts him up to par with cosmic things. In fact, Astonishing Thor #3 has Thor himself muse that, though his physical form is bound by 3-dimensional space, his inner divinity is not. It in fact transcends dimensions, again hammering in home that Thor's inner power and potential go vastly beyond his regular state of existence.
So, in summary: Thor, even in his base state, should have an "up to High 1-A" high-end, for when he is fully tapping into his life-essence.
Also, one more thing: Currently the following is part of Thor's 3-C justification:
So,, the "galactic explosion" in question was in fact the birth of a new Celestial. The explosion itself was just the newborn energies expanding and then contracting to take the shape of the Celestial they belong to, and as such they are itself the power of that Celestial. So right now, we are basically saying Thor scales above that explosion, which is to say that he scales above the Celestials, which is obviously absurd. And that's putting aside the fact my man is literally being rated at 3-C off of harming High 1-Bs.
So, this should be removed, and Thor should probably just scale from the universe-shaking feats, and the feats in Silver Surfer's profile.
