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8-B Brackets Round 11

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I also feels like vacuum razors ignore durability (at certain degree), at the end, vacuum is one of the most simple applications of Void Manipulation; so one do not have to be considerable stronger to hurt someone with those attacks. But that's just me.

I also would like to finish Kamome vs VK before the signal is lost once again.
 
It doesn't matter that her thing is later though, because his base form is already backscaled there from it. Even if she was getting hit earlier in the fight and all, I don't think you can say he wasn't even 1 1/32 as strong as her when he just one shots her like that.
 
Antoniofer said:
I also feels like vacuum razors ignore durability (at certain degree), at the end, vacuum is one of the most simple applications of Void Manipulation; so one do not have to be considerable stronger to hurt someone with those attacks. But that's just me.
I also would like to finish Kamome vs VK before the signal is lost once again.
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Well yes they would ignore durability to a certain extent, but i think you read it backwards. Ikki destroyed void slashes, not the other way around.
 
Wokistan said:
It doesn't matter that her thing is later though, because his base form is already backscaled there from it. Even if she was getting hit earlier in the fight and all, I don't think you can say he wasn't even 1 1/32 as strong as her when he just one shots her like that.
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1. His backscaling doesn't take into account his increase in magic capacity. Desperados have increased magic capacity and much higher stats than normal, though Ikki just reached his awakening so i can't wank it to be any great ammount but it's still something to take into consideration.

2. Before that clash, stella took on her own attack after Ikki Madoka'd it and she started bleeding from her flank (where she took the hit) her vision even became blurry for a moment IIRC. Although she has regenerative capacities there is a limit and i cannot say that she had completely regenerated after taking on her own 8-A attack. Besides if her own 8-A attack could get her down like that, you needn't be much stronger to take her down.

3. It was using his strongest technique, thing he didn't have when fighting Ouma.

All of these are inquantifiable but significant none the less, so it's a bit hard to be sure of a tier after all of these.
 
I guess.

I mean, I'll still wait for this to be concluded naturally before posting the next round.
 
Why people still voting Ouma while this is massive AP stomp? And i'm still iclined to disqualified Ouma due of RKnC revision still going and he should be 8-A at best.
 
If this is a stomp, he's either disqualified in case it's not fair for the brackets or just passed to the next round. Obviously we won't add the battle to their profiles because stomp, but it doesn't mean he can't have a fair fight later on.
 
A non hax stomp can still be fair for other characters, so that wouldn't really be grounds to ban. I'm just pretty sure he shouldn't be 8-B.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
He's not mid-revision. His verse is, not him in particular.
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Not to rain on the parade here, but we spent about half of this thread establishing stuff that wasn't even on his profile prior to this thread.

I'm genuinely not sure where to go forward with this.
 
If he's this likely to cause problems, whether its his verse or not (and I'm saying this with no distaste towards Earl), we should probably disqualify to avoid the brackets dying. This thread has taken far too long with too many diversions.

Just an opinion.
 
I think we should continue with the rest of the matches, this battle has practically killed the tournament, I'm not sure why we're still here when several people agreed that this is a stomp.
 
Yeah, disqualify Ouma due of staling or even kill the brackets atm/Massive AP stomp and he should be 8-A at best/RKnC revision still ongoing and move on.
 
I mean at this point you're trying to disqualify Ouma just due to being high in AP. He has high AP. His verse is in revisions in the hax departament, the tiering part was already done. (I need to fix something minor on Ikki's tier but that's about it).

Again Ouma is "likely 8-A" but there is a pretty good possibility that he's 8-B due to scaling off of a 10th of a dude who 1 shotted a 8-A girl. Said 8-A girl had almost 1 shotted herself with her own hit before (her 8-A attack almost dropped her unconscious, she started bleeding and stuff). 1 shotting is different from verse to verse. A dude amped up, got stronger and used a MUCH stronger skill to 1 shot a 8-A girl who previously nigh 1-shotted herself. How much he amped himself is inquantifiable that's why the possibility is still there. a 10th of that feat could be a flat 8-A (IF Ikki was Low 7-C when he did that), or a really high 8-B (if Ikki was still 8-A when he did that). There is no way to define which of those it is which is why the 8-B still exists. It's not a true tier, it's a possibility.

And again Starscream is higher in AP than Ouma.
 
It being about hax doesn't make it not a crt.

The ban on characters who are going through crts is because it'll make their matches outdated.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
It being about hax doesn't make it not a crt.
The ban on characters who are going through crts is because it'll make their matches outdated.
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I already said Ouma is "NOT" part of that CRT didn't i?
 
Anyway do whatever you want, Ouma is not losing his 8-B tier due to uncertanity (there is no way to be sure of his tier), if you think Ouma is too broken for this tournament then feel free to kick him out (The Prisoner from dead cells who is a TON harder to put down and has some more hax up his sleeve was fair in the high 8-C brackets, i don't see Ouma being above that level of superiority with just AP and forcefields alone). There was no restriction on AP, and Ouma doesn't have hax, but if he's somehow not bearable when there are people with higher AP in this brackets ok.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
I mean at this point you're trying to disqualify Ouma just due to being high in AP. He has high AP. His verse is in revisions in the hax departament, the tiering part was already done. (I need to fix something minor on Ikki's tier but that's about it).

Again Ouma is "likely 8-A" but there is a pretty good possibility that he's 8-B due to scaling off of a 10th of a dude who 1 shotted a 8-A girl. Said 8-A girl had almost 1 shotted herself with her own hit before (her 8-A attack almost dropped her unconscious, she started bleeding and stuff). 1 shotting is different from verse to verse. A dude amped up, got stronger and used a MUCH stronger skill to 1 shot a 8-A girl who previously nigh 1-shotted herself. How much he amped himself is inquantifiable that's why the possibility is still there. a 10th of that feat could be a flat 8-A (IF Ikki was Low 7-C when he did that), or a really high 8-B (if Ikki was still 8-A when he did that). There is no way to define which of those it is which is why the 8-B still exists. It's not a true tier, it's a possibility.

And again Starscream is higher in AP than Ouma.
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You have a point. Of coarse, High AP is allowed, as long as it is in the 8-B range. In this case, Starscream is around 96 Tons, very close to baseline 8-A but not there completely, hence, City Block+, so it was the right thing indeed for me (and Drite) to nominate since his attack advantage can prove useful.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
If he's this likely to cause problems, whether its his verse or not (and I'm saying this with no distaste towards Earl), we should probably disqualify to avoid the brackets dying. This thread has taken far too long with too many diversions.

Just an opinion.
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I agree with this
 
I agree that we need to go onto the next round ASAP, whether that be via accepting Ouma's win here or by dq'ing him for his questionable ratings derailing the brackets.
 
I'd personally DQ Ouma and move on. He's in revisions, and a rule is that characters in revisions aren't allowed, anyways.

This one match has slowed down the bracket for like, 4 days already, regardless. No matter the outcome, I really want the next round going.
 
Except he is since everyone is pointing out he should be 8-A regardless. So yes. Yes he is part of the changes, one feels.
 
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