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Team 1

1. Time Havoc (WeeklyBattles)

2. Baga (GenericStickMan)

3. Sion Zail (First Witch)

4. Bloxx (ExodusNexus)

5. Megatron (Beast Wars) (Drite77)

6. Sakura Haruno (DragonEmperor)

7. Shichika Yasuri (Third Key) (Creature Master)

8. Doomsday (DC Extended Universe) (AnonymousBlank)

9. Nonon Jakuzure (Dvorak) [Got asleep/Defeated due to AP and versatility difference]

10. Archer (James Moriarty) (Repeat)

Team 2

1. Yachiyo Nanami (Edwardtruong)

2. Ruler (Sherlock Holmes) (00potato)

3. Alden Tate (Schnee One)

4. Behemoth (Anima: Beyond Fantasy) (Antoniofer)

5. Lucario (Psychomaster)

6. Aoko Aozaki (Paul Frank)

7. Ultron (Marvel Cinematic Universe) (The Smashor)

8. Orochi (One Punch Man) (Yobo Blue)

9. All Might (Spinorr)

10. Steven Universe (Second Key) (Cinnabarmanx)

Both teams have knowledge of the abilities of their allies and 1 minute of coordination and prep time

Battle takes place in New York during the summer

Speed Equal

SBA otherwise

Who wins?
 
Team 1 is gonna need to rely on Time Havoc's time stop. Raw AP is firmly on Team 2's side between Ultron Lucario and All Might, with Steven's shields to back it up. Sakura and Archer are the heaviest hitters on Team 2.
 
>James Moriarty

approximately 0 people on team 2 can deal with his fate hax with the possible exception of Yachiyo who just gets shot to hell and back
 
Shichika is practically tailored to hardcounter melee-oriented fighters, but only if he can get within a few meters, so he'd want to avoid anyone with significant ranged abilities.
 
Hl3 or bust said:
>James Moriarty

approximately 0 people on team 2 can deal with his fate hax with the possible exception of Yachiyo who just gets shot to hell and back
How does it work in canon?
 
What I can see is that Lucario buffs so hard, he goes beyond 7-A and Earthquakes everybody to death.
 
Giving some input: Behemoth can make an AoE attack of 100 m, and selectively banish anyone within it, so it can choose to fight whoever it wants. The bad thing: it cause damage and can hurt its own allies.
 
So basically, Behemoth and Lucario are the major threats with AoE attacks to kill everybody. Is this what you say?
 
No

Yachiyo, James, and Wallachia are the only real threats. Holmes might count due to basically hard-countering James' fate hax but that's about all he can do.
 
Jinku Enkido can't be made that frecuent, once made can't be done unless everyone but one is killed.
 
If he gets sneaked up on, of he's hit first?

Considering that he constantly spams attacks and has homing bullets that probably won't ever happen, but in the case it does if he even indirectly caused either of those to happen it won't do shit to him.
 
I mean

There's also that fate hax from the magical girl.

Additionally, I'm fairly certain James' fate powers are not that strong considering the entirety of Shinjuku
 
FGO makes 0 sense and trying to say that the fate hax is shit because the PC even had a chance of winning at any point is entirely gameplay mechanics.
 
Hl3 or bust said:
FGO makes 0 sense and trying to say that the fate hax is shit because the PC even had a chance of winning at any point is entirely gameplay mechanics.
That's cool, but he canonically had to do a bunch of shenanigans to get around his own weaknesses, much less the powers of Sherlock
 
There's the major fact that Lucario can buff the heck out of itself (given he's physically the strongest contestant here) and force everyone to attack him with Follow Me, giving everyone else the chance to get Team 1.
 
That's cool, but he canonically had to do a bunch of shenanigans to get around his own weaknesses, much less the powers of Sherlock

He just needs to cause something to happen. Considering that he opens by shooting at people, that isn't really a weakness worth considering. Plus, Holmes is the only person on team 2 other than Yachiyo who can do literally anything to him at all and even then that's only if he can get away and find the solution he created, which won't happen.
 
James' End of the Spider thread has no feats on the level you're implying, and it definitely does not work on that level.
 
Yobo Blue said:
James' End of the Spider thread has no feats on the level you're implying, and it definitely does not work on that level.
What level did i imply it had

Because i was never implying that it was anything above baseline fate hax
 
Tatari comes back via being Tatari and steals the blood of team one, killing anyone who needs blood still
 
There's no such thing as baseline fate hax

The passive fate powers on both teams are likely to cancel out anyway.
 
>At least one person on either team has passive fate hax

>People are talking about BFR and AoE on characters who don't resist fate hax like it makes a difference
 
Yobo Blue said:
There's no such thing as baseline fate hax

The passive fate powers on both teams are likely to cancel out anyway.
Yes there is. It's called fate hax with no feats of affecting anyone but people who didn't resist it.

Also, Yachiyo's fate and prob hax ***** over everyone nearby, including her teammates
 
Yes, but Fate hax can affect people to any degree. It can be minor things or major things regardless of who it effects.
 
Paul Frank said:
Tatari comes back via being Tatari and steals the blood of team one, killing anyone who needs blood still
"He requires a strong concentration of fears and rumors, along with other conditions, to even surface in an area."
 
I mean, unless it makes him invulnerable, if he's caught in an AoE attack that he has a 0% chance of avoiding...
 
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