7-A Tournament Match 2 (Cure Heart vs Giant Robot (Instant Death))

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Bracket and Bracket Hub.

The combatants for this particular match are Cure Heart (submitted by The God Of Procrastinatio) and Giant Robot (Instant Death) (submitted by Oblivion Of The Endless).

Partheon Mode Heart is being used and speed is equalized.

Cure Heart:

Giant Robot: 7 (Oblivion Of The Endless,DontTalkDT,MrDrProfessorPatricio,Epsilon R,Spinoirr,TheMonsterOfTheAbyss,Greenshifter)

Inconclusive:

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Ok, so, Robot apparently has advantage over AP, Range, Intelligence, Stamina and has a really good Analytical Prediction/Info Analysis

So I think he takes this more times than not. Voting GR

 

[DontTalkDT]

The advantages I see for Cure Heart are that a 30m tall robot is easy to hit and her speed amp.

How good is her speed amp? If it isn't significant I think she probably looses.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Leaning towards Giant Robot for now. Need more input from Cure Heart to make a vote

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

The speed boost is either 2x or 5x, I think.

Isn't there an actual rule that being a machine isn't an automatic limitless stamina?

 

[Schnee_One]

Is that actually stated or is it guesstimating?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Robots are usually limitless unless there is some kind of statement that contradicts (like an energy battery or something)

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Resolved form scales to combination selfish, which are five times as strong as regular ones.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Robots are usually limitless unless there is some kind of statement that contradicts (like an energy battery or something)

If there is such a practice I disagree with it. Actually had this corrected for some machines in the past. I imagine the amount of machines running on perpetuum mobile is pretty small.


Anyways, do we go with the low end or high end of the AP calc for Giant Robot i.e. is he 435 Megatons or 217 Megatons?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

435 megatons. The high end was accepted iirc

 

[DontTalkDT]

I see. Cure Heart seems to be about baseline.

So Giant Robot has a considerable AP advantage, while Cure Heart has a considerable speed advantage. Pretty difficult decision.

Guess I will go with GR for now.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

GR FRA

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I am confused about one thing, Cure's stat amps says that it amps speed, power and dura which would make her stronger than GR if it really is a x5 amp.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Can she really amp her speed that way tho? She is the slower character

 

[AnonymousBlank]

She isn't winning just because of a blitz which is the only issue with the slower character amping, her amp (if it really is x5) means she is stronger than GR.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

If she is baseline and is amping her speed and ap 5x then their ap is similar since GR is 430 megatons. CH would be 500 megatons amped, I think?

GR also has better intelligence, good precog/info analysis and range

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Afterimages kinda mess with that as he won't know which is Cure so he can't predict accordingly.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Does she leads with that amp? And is it really 5x?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

She amplifies by having a reason to fight other than just "monster of the week is punching things, better punch it." Since "trying to prove herself" seems to work, we should be good here.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

So, is the amp 2x or 5x?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

5x.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Hmm, thats tough

Their AP/Dura is similar since its only a 1,1x difference, so its negligible

Cure has the speed advantage

GR has intelligence, info analysis/precog, stamina, range, and possibly skill advantages


Considering how GR constantly simulates hundred millions of possible outcomes for his battles on his mind, I can see him trying to outlast Cure via better stamina and abusing his range and skill over her until she falls

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Heart has the hax advantage.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Morality and Empathic manip isnt gonna work since GR is an emotionless robot

Unless she has feats of affecting those

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

She's affected mechanical things before, and GR does seem to possess them.

 

[Schnee_One]

Morality and Empathic manip isnt gonna work since GR is an emotionless robot

Unless she has feats of affecting those

Cures can affect machines

 

[DontTalkDT]

Would Morality and Emotion stuff do anything, though? Reducing GR's Selfishness doesn't seem like something that would incap him.


Is the multiplier being specifically x5 reliable? If so I guess Cure Heart probably wins.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

It scales to something else being 5X. Speed is unknown, but large.

It would probably incapacitate.

 

[DontTalkDT]

So the speed multiplier isn't specifically x5, just the power one?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Correct. It is at least a blitz, though.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

It would probably incapacitate.

How does it work? Has she incapacitated people with that before?

 

[DontTalkDT]

Hmm... Well, I could see the analytic prediction helping against that, though.

I wanna vote inconclusive, but that helps nobody...

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

We haven't seen someone not resist it who doesn't die, but being filled with love probably doesn't make you the most violent.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Giant Robot fra

 

[DontTalkDT]

We haven't seen someone not resist it who doesn't die, but being filled with love probably doesn't make you the most violent.

I mean, assuming the typical magical girl tropes Cure Heart is probably filled with love and can fight. So I would guess GR could do the same.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

But he isn't used to them.

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Bump

 

[Spinoirr]

Robot fra

 

[PhantomØ4]

Robot FRA

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

You didn't even acknowledge my comment.