2-C Dormammu proof

[BMWFanboy]

The profile for Dormammu has him at Low Multiversal, since he contained multiple universes within his realm, however I have never seen this mentioned anywhere, where did this tiering come from?

 

[Antvasima]

Sorry. I just noticed that this question was for Dormammu (Marvel Cinematic Universe), not the original Dormammu (Marvel Comics).

I am not well informed about the movie version.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I have no idea. It was on his profile all along.

 

[Schnee_One]

Hold on

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Yeah, MCU being tier 2 seems wank. Original being 2-C is legit though.

 

[Schnee_One]

This isn't about the original

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I know

 

[Eficiente]

I'm rewatching the movie to check this. Strange and Ancient One's portals should have Multiversal+ range.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Infinite MCU multiverse is actually correct, though no one scales yet.

 

[Eficiente]

In range via portals yes.

 

[Antvasima]

You can politely ask Matthew Schroeder to comment here if you wish.

 

[Eficiente]

Ok so..

• 2-C Dormammu doesn't make sense from the Doctor Strange movie, at best it comes from a guide or something.
• Dormammu should have Telekinesis for attracting his followers to the Dark Dimension
• The spoilers warning, "At least" in his Immortality, "and likely many others" in P&A, Infinite speed, and "Likely extremely high" Intelligence should all be removed.
  • Also he should not have 2 Keys.
• Multiversal+ range via portals for Strange and Ancient One
• Some profiles claim that Ultron just isn't a threat to Strange, which is false, he just doesn't fight non-mystical threats.

 

[Cropfist]

That last one is from a WoG interview.

 

[Antvasima]

I vaguely remember somebody mentioning that the Dark Dimension contained several universes that Dormammu had absorbed into it.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, we still need Matthew to reply here.

 

[Eficiente]

Has anyone contacted Matt?

 

[Antvasima]

Apparently not. You can do so if you wish.

 

[ByAsura]

The thread is here.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

For those who are so lazy that they don't want to bother to read the thread themselves

"Dormammu dwells in the Dark Dimension. Beyond time. He is the cosmic conqueror... the destroyer of worlds. A being of infinite power and endless hunger, on a quest to invade every universe and all bring worlds into his dark dimension."

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

That feels like just affecting the physical universe, not space and time.

 

[Eficiente]

on a quest to invade every universe and all bring worlds into his dark dimension."

This is how this continues: "and he hungers for Earth most of all" (I linked every Dormammu lore above)

This is why only the planet had protection, Dormammu only wanted that.

 

[Antvasima]

If there is no proof that he absorbed universes, his rating should probably be changed to unknown instead.

 

[Eficiente]

There is no indication that he's more powerful in the Dark Dimension, he should not have 2 keys, instead he should only be 5-B.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that unknown would likely be best. He is clearly far more powerful than Strange, but we do not know to what degree.

 

[Eficiente]

Strange was only High 7-A in the movie.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we still do not know exactly how powerful Dormammu is. I would much prefer to keep his statistics at unknown.

 

[DMB_1]

Dormammu being 2-C would mean that he would be siuèerior to the entities tho.

 

[Schnee_One]

Dormammu being 2-C would mean that he would be siuèerior to the entities tho.

Is that an issue?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But wasn't the stones those guys made capable of affecting him?

Still, I doubt there is actual proof that he afffects the universe in any way but physically

 

[Eficiente]

@Ant How? We know he consumes worlds and that he's know as the "the destroyer of worlds", so he's clearly 5-B. The infinite power claim is an obvious hyperbole, and without it nothing implies him being more powerful than any 5-B.

 

[Antvasima]

We haven't seen the upper limit of his powers, but I suppose that "Unknown, at least 5-B" could work.

 

[Eficiente]

Well, I disagree, people knowledgeable on him stated that he was 5-B, therefore we don't need to see the upper limit of his powers.

 

[Antvasima]

The problem is that he may very well be the embodiment of the Dark Dimension itself, and be capable of absorbing much larger planets than the Earth. As such, I much prefer the rating that I stated earlier.

 

[Eficiente]

No one said he was the embodiment of it. Even if he were, without more context that wouldn't mean nothing qualifiable. And what larger planets than the Earth? That was also never stated, if anything the "and he hungers for Earth most of all" out of infinite universes implies the contrary.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, okay then, although I would prefer to see what Matthew thinks of this.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I feel an "Unknown, at least 5-B" would be best.

We don't have any onfo of what he can do at his best, but we know a minimum of what he can do.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I can give my opinion when I have the time but I think Low 2-C or 2-C Dormammu does make sense.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It would need proof more than anything as of now.

 

[ByAsura]

@Eficiente

I also don't agree with 2-C. Hungering for Earth most of all doesn't contradict the universe dragging statements, it just means he isn't going to bring the main MCU universe into his own.

 

[Eficiente]

What "universe dragging statements"?