This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Hello, I hope those who read this CRT and be respectful to it have a nice day.
So this is a CRT attempting to put back Lavos to tier 1, though this is more of a 'asking for an input' type of CRT but these are the arguments I'm gonna put.
Special thanks to @StrymULTRA for helping me out in this...
So the Chrono profiles are relics from an old era. Thus they’re bad, so there are a few misconceptions that have sprung up from them. So as a TLDR.
Lavos is getting toned down a bit in abilities
Chrono Trigger is getting toned the **** up in AP
Chrono Trigger gets a solid amount of resistances...
This could potentially be minor or major, depends on your interpretation. Currently Serge is rated as tier 1 for merging all of the universes into a higher-dimensional plane. This kinda sucks, and we should expand on it more.
The Evidence for Multiple Dimensions in Chrono
The current rating for...
So I have been looking for the scans that show where this happens but I can't find them.
"Low Complex Multiverse level with the Chrono Cross (Merged all universes into a higher-dimensional plane)"
Could somebody please provide the scans for this, whether it is agreed upon or not as a stat that...
I can't wait to start this match.
Speed isn't equalized. Both scale to crossing universes in seconds.
Serge's profile is barebones so I'll describe his stuff if someone asks (and yes his scaling chain is humongous to match. We all remember Lavos's days in the prime and Sege with CC scales...
I feel like this needs some discussion.
So Lavos is currently treated as having Passive 5D absorption in his Dream Devourer and Time Devourer keys. This is a bit of a problem for a couple reasons.
High 2-A Nomming:
First, Lavos is only "At least 2-A, possibly High 2-A". Lavos scales from the...
Something has been on my mind for a while and that is a question I have about what makes a verse possible 2-A material. A 2-A character is from my understanding one that has the power equal to or greater than infinite 4-D universes--or they're 5 dimensional beings or beyond.
However, what...
2-A versions
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Archie_Pre-Genesis_Wave)#Ultra%20Sonic
speed equalized
standard equipment
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Serge_(Chrono_Cross)
whoooooo would win
The scan about the High 2As are missing
Serge : "possibly High Multiverse level+ with the Chrono Cross (Merged all universes into a higher-dimensional plane)"
Lavos : "possibly High Multiverse level(Managed to not only fight with Serge equipped with the Chrono Cross, but that alone couldn't...
It pains me to be the one to do this, buut... I have to.
Serge's key in Radical Dreamers is quite exaggerated as it currently is.
While the Chrono Trigger with the Frozen Flame is indeed specified to be Low 2-C, Radical Dreamers Serge doesn't scale to this at all.
Tiering: Low 2-C should go...
After a good deal of months, should be safe to do this. Anyways, I've finally got to go through the history of Radical Dreamers one more time, so there are a few things I'd like to add to say Lavos is missing from its profile.
The game has a number of feats involving the Frozen Flame that -...
Nothing too major, everyone's still going to remain 5-A. However, there is a better 5-A feat than the one listed on Queen Zeal's profile. This video says it all. This narrator in the video is ProtoDude/ClassicGameGuys, who is pretty much responsible for most of the Chrono Verse pages, so he does...
Here is a page listing all of the Elements (But not the techs.) in Chrono Cross, along with links to pages for those elements.
The few pages on our Wiki for Chrono Cross characters seem to be neglectful of their mentioning of the abilities offered to characters by the Elements that are...
Two franchises that were Toriyama influenced. Serge has the Chrono Trigger. Not the Cross (i.e. that 2-A thing that threatens most in the tier if he can get it off). Speed equalized.
Where would she scale, and what would her powers be? Since she was pretty relevant to the story, I've been thinking about making a profile for her, but it's been quite a while since I've played Chrono Cross or read Radical Dreamers.
...I'm finally doing this.
I'm just gonna copy + paste Fate's response:
"For one, if we take one interpretation, it took:
1. Anywhere between 20+ to 44 2-As to beat it, no less (DBT doesn't have the Time Travel limitation of CT).
2. EoS Serge.
3. Frozen Flame which was channeling its own...
And while gathering info on the timelines, turns out I found two things.
Part of me wondered if I should do this on the Questions and Answers boards instead, because this is more of a pair of questions than a suggestion (I dislike making revisions without a significant ammount of evidence to...