It basically means it need to end everything including TLOI itself, but the main thing i saw at its profile is nep
you know she's "the end of the story" right? it means there's nothing TLOI can end here since she technically the end of the story itself
Except TLOI still exist as a story, which means TLOI contributes Shiro's immortality as a whole, I'm not asking whether TLOI can end every story besides itself, I'm asking whether TLOI can or will end itself in order to make Shiro's immo type 8 a moot
Vernal is the last story and her story can only end after all others. TLOI can end all stories and exist after their ending.
I would say defeat is a possibility here.
That's practically the same as Shiro as she also transcend any story at her own verse imo
The difference being in this case that in Ichiban theres actually a lot of beings (don't remember if there was actually an infinite amount of them) that create an infinite amount of stories, each stories having even different levels of complexity (which is something important that actually had quite the effect iirc), the Law of Identity still hard countered all, so at least in terms of plot manip Shallow probably is below the plot manip of Ichiban verse.
That also sounds like Kuro who can generate infinite possibilities with her own plot manip but point taken
Besides Kuro there is any other in the verse with plot manip? Because in Ichiban the outversal gods (don't recall if that's their actual name) are beings composed of stories itselfs who create an infinite amount of stories, as said before each even having different levels of complexity (which is something actually important), and are constantly competing between them with their stories, altering the others stories, ending them in certain ways, etc. So in principle is more than just simple generate infinite possibilities.
In Isekai at peace, those who can manipulate plot is essentially one of the strongest there, so to answer your question, No, there's nobody other than Shiro who has plot manip other than Kuro that I know of
She is the origin of all fiction, transcend, and consider it all just an imagination. In terms of power, I think that TLOI will win this fight.
Not quite sure what you mean, but in this key she would be assumed to transcend an infinite story hierarchy above the afterlife (which itself is 1 R>f layer above real world, though that probably doesn't matter)
No i meant what i say
Based on the fact that Shiro can't literally cease to exist as long as any story still existing within her vicinity, which is infinite baseline 1-A range
Huh, well alright then, I thought Shiro's Last Story stretched throughout infinite 1-A range so any story that still exist at the very edgy of her Authority should nakes her immo type 8 viable
