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This thread is a continuation of the following thread: https://vsbattles.com/threads/alien-x-3-a-downgrade.123447
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Now that Ben and his aliens from Classic contunity are in Tier 8 might as well go with my dream match. Curious on how this showdown will go hopefully not a stomp, Both start in the weakest forms and then proceed to their strongest forms as the fight goes on.
Both are in Tier 8.
Morals are off...
It was stated that Alien x would lose to Garou :
And not even his Reality manipulation would save him so pls downgrade him to High 7-A (low 7-B if he was referring to base Garou) and of course Garou would get 2-B reality warping resistance
Yeah I'm gonna put some dirt in @Zamasu_Chan eyes
Anyway here are the points given by the person who started the thread.
Alien X downgrade :/
Hopefully this could be done in a civil manner, but let's begin. Statements Important statements are in bold. August 31, 2008 - X = Ben + 2 Serena: We...
I think found a potential lifting strength upgrade for Wildmutt, or at least for his Ultimate Alien/Omniverse Key. In the Ben 10 Omniverse episode 'Of Predators and Prey: Part 1' during the first parts of the episode Ben transforms into Wildmutt during his fight with Buglizard where he was able...
Got this idea from a matchup I found in a DEATH BATTLE Reddit forum.
Two frog-like girls duke it out to see who is best frog. Froppy is at High 8-C.
Edit: Speed equalized
Tsuyu Asui (Froppy):
Attea:
Draw/Inconclusive:
I noticed that in Ben 10 Omniverse episode 'Of Predators and Prey: Part 2' Khyber and Grey Matter were seen using a move called the 'Hephestan Neuro Grip' which is an attack that causes an opponent's body to go limp if they're pinched between the head and shoulders. I wanted to ask if this...
Currently, we have the tier for characters, such as UAF/OV Gwen (physically), unarmored Kevin, and Ben being Athlete level, this seems like a little bit of a lowball to me, since if my memory of the show is correct, they've survived things that normal humans shouldn't, and upon searching blogs...
Always wanted to do a Ben 10 vs Akame match up since I read a popular fanfic, Guess it's finally the time.
Ben accidently ends up teleporting into Akame Ga Kill world and encounter Akame both have a showdown and decides to attack each other.
Speed: Equalized
Location: Top of The Capital...
Speed is equalized, battle takes place in space in Ben's verse. Win via death.
Alien X: 0
Miraak: 3: (Xsouls, Finepoint, Fluffy)
Inconclusive: 0
vs
Battle of mind controllers
I'm thinking I might add profiles for the Nemetrix Aliens and I wanted to ask what gender they classify as, considering the Nemetrix has had both male (Khyber and Phil Billings) and female (Zed) users
Omniverse Ben Tennyson was used,
Ben had Master Control and Thanos had the complete Infinity Gauntlet,
Battle took place outside the Avengers compound,
and Speed was equalized
Thanos:
Ben Tennyson: 1
Inconclusive
The Stardust Crusader fights Kevin 11
Jotaro is in his Part 3 Key and is already angry
Kevin is in his Original Series Kevin 11 Key
Speed Equalized/Time Stop Restricted for Jotaro
Battle takes place in Kamurocho (See Picture) and both start off 10 Meters away from each other
The Stardust...
Super Sonic is used and both are Low 2-C as well.
Speed is equalized.
Battle takes place on Babylon Garden on Earth.
Music cuz why not.
(Hope this isn't a stomp)
Blue Blur: JED, Greenshifter, Shizuka, Delta333, FluffyCreatureZ, GlaceonGamez471, sanicspood, Sonicflare9, Gilad_Hyperstar...
Both in character
Ben has Master Control
Alien x is restricted
Speed equalized
Both at their peak
Both start in base
Both start at 10 meters away from each other
Ash : 4
Ben with Omnitrix : 8
Incon :
Speed is = and post haven ruby rose Is being used and Ben can only use any high 8-C alien that he doesn't stomp ruby with. He starts out in Arctiguana
Ben can only use these ailens: (Arctiguana, Armodrillo, Blitzwolfer, Chamalien, Cannonbolt, Bullfrag, XLR8, Heatblast, Humungousaur, Jetray...
Speed is = and this is Omniverse Ben with master control (who can only use high 8-C aliens) vs base Carnage
Red slime:
Guy who just wanted a smoothie: 2
Icon:
Omniverse Ben with master control vs Black Suit Spider-Man. Speed equal. Tier 8 aliens only.
Ben (3.96 to 7 to 7.9 tons):
Spider-Man ( > 4.45 tons): 1 (XSOUL)
Incon:
Base Spidermonky vs General Blue Saga Goku, speed equalized
Son Gokek (3.72 tons): 8 (Gilad, Sanic, Coolboy, Abaddon, Fluffy, XSOULOFCINDERX, Midnight, Zoro)
Spidermanmonkey (3.96 tons):
Speed is = and AF Vilgax is used vs joint training arc Bakugo (however I will use villan hunt arc Bakugo if it becomes not fair for Bakugo)
Vilgax lands on earth to challenge Earth's heroes and bakugo steps up to the plate saying he will become the number one hero
Great Explosion Murder God...
In the summer of 2020 I decided to downgrade Ben 10. But It was a rough start, so I upgraded them some months ago. It was cool for a time. I allowed the very thing I was against to thrive for funzies. However, It's time for this to die. So anyway, let's get started.
Flawed calculations
Vilgax's...
Surprised this wasn’t done yet, as these 2 have good connections of being ghostly rivals to 2 transforming teens.
Speed is equalized, both are Low 6-B, and the battle takes place in the streets of a nighttime city. Both start 10 meters away from each other.
Who wins?
Vampire-looking...
Considering AX got some new abilities
Both are bloodlusted
Speed equalized
Akuto Sai act 9 (Awakened) key is being used (Low 2-C key)
Fight start at 10 meters away from each other
Akuto Sai :
Alien x :
Speed equalized
Low 6-B versions are being used
Ben has access to all of his aliens except of High 5-A and Low 2-C Aliens obviously
Both in character
Ben has Master Control
Fight start at 20 meters away from each
Location : Earth
Naruto : 2
Ben : 7
Alright so let's get started
1)Possibly 2-C upgrade :
Here's what the guide says :
"Alien x can create and destroy entire universes, so the risk is too great for Ben to use this upgrade again"
This implies that Alien x can create and destroy multiple universes but the thing is we don't...
Got ya
Now for the actual crt it's rather simple actually
So in the episode Universe vs Tennyson of Omniverse
It's revealed that it was the celestial sapiens who changed the show's artstyle and Azmuth's voice actor on three different occasions
I think this qualifies for plot manipulation...
Rules :
Both in character
Win by death, incap or KO
Fight start at 20 meters away from each other
This is Gwen from AF/UA
Gwen doesn't have the charm of luck
Suicune : 7
Gwen :
Incon