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You can more or less put all of them as incon to SS for almost the same reason.
Goku, Fu, Demigra. All have Dimensional travel / Teleportation that has layered 5-D range. All can move across ranges higher than baseline 5-D range.
The only difference between Arale and Demigra/Fu/Goku is that...
Alright I’ll concede on the 4th wall breaking point then.
The range I still think would be an issue. Because as expansive as the cookie cosmology is and SS being one with it…
From VBW, if layered ranges are not established for cookie run then it’s assumed all areas across cookie run can be...
I’m not gonna get into it too much (as I’m currently at work) but I will say at least that both Sugar Swan and Arale likely incon each other. Arale can’t put down SS due to her AE1 based on Concepts. But Arale has Multilocation which allows her to simultaneously operate inside and outside of the...
Quid pro quo on how layers work:
Example:
P1 has plot Hax (0 layer potency) and P2 has Plot resistance (0 layer resistance)
*P1 uses Plot Hax against P2. It fails because P2 resists.
*P3 uses Plot Hax against P2. It succeeds meaning P3’s Plot Hax operates at a higher potency than P1’s and was...
I was summoned to answer this question so I will.
As established in the metaphysical aspects page itself. Concept, Info 2 and Plot are all by default equivalent to each other and none are by default greater than the other nor can interact with the other.
Plot Manipulation CANT allow you to...
If this is about Goku having History EE resistance and Hakai having History EE applications.
Those are for completely unrelated reasons that are not associated to dr slump. Read the page again. Hakai has its own dragon ball established reasons for History EE
Sigh, fine I’ll answer this
Short answer: No. I won’t get too much into it but just be as brief as possible, Beerus can’t erase beings on a narrative level and/or can’t erase things to a level where they are booted from the story completely. It’s only been accepted that he can Hakai beings with...
Sigh 😞
Since I am require to step in at this point I might as well
To answer this question,
It’s because Beerus and/or Hakai has no indications nor implications to being at that level prior to episode 69 and even after episode 69 nothing else further substantiates not supports it.
The Hakai...
It’s been ready for quite a while in all honestly
I just lost motivation at some point along the way and started updating it ever so slowly
But in light of truly unfortunate recent events
I’ve made a point to renew it a lot and add a bunch more stuff I was honestly saving for an update CTR...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:ArmBill/sandbox?useskin=fandomdesktop#Tori-Bot
Can this sandbox be deleted please
I’ve already spoken to the owner of the sandbox and they want it to be nuked
There is literally nothing on it
@Theglassman12
I don’t about that in all honesty glass.
Like I understand your point but as DT points out and as already clarified by the revision thread done on NEP as a whole.
The principle of aspects was brought in to say that unless added verification and context is brought to the table...
Hey Qwasdef
I was previously commenting on the Plot Manipulation thread before it became a staff thread
I was seen chatting with Glassman
Can I ask for permission to comment on the thread
I’d like to ask him and DT a few more questions regarding the topic and points they brought up
@Theglassman12
I’ll say I’ll agree with Iam and Phscc on this kind of matter. Or at least I have the same grievances as well. NEP and ND have to produce their own evidences as well otherwise where do we strike the balance?
For example…
Let’s say Character A has Concept Hax but no one in his...
Hey Glass
I have another question for you
Answer when you can
Let’s say being “A” writes a world with Normal Laws into existence. Then later he overwrites that world with a different world with different sets of laws. Then he rewrites the world again with even more different sets of Laws from...
Yeah so umm…
I’m very cautious and discrete so I’m not gonna be saying 💩 in any public open VBW or Discord spaces where the world can see what I’m talking about
If y’all want to be spoiled you can either reach out to me on discord or simply create a 10 person mini discord group among...
Do any of you have discord
At this point I’m tempted to just spoil everything since it’s clear asking you all to leave the matter of Toriyama to me to handle is not gonna work as y’all seem to be cooking half baked ideas.
And after I worked so hard to get so many approvals for me secret project too
Hey Glass
I was reading this Chinese novel and it had an interesting concept I wanted to run by you
Basically,
In a world, there is a supreme being whose mind is responsible for the inception of all minds. No one in the world can think for themselves because all their minds are naturally ruled...
Her Dimensional Hopping is at Interdimensional range on her profile
You know, the thing above Universal+ range?
Which is you know 4-D?
Again if I’m mistaken then lemme know
You know
I never actually got the logic behind this..
So can you or someone else explain how Haki resisting a 3-D BFR from Law spanning Kilometers can allow Haki users to resist a 4-D BFR from Kaguya spanning inter dimensional range dimensions or is there smth Im missing?
Pretty sure a 3-D BFR...
Calm down my guy
A lot is going on behind the scenes that you don’t know about and plans are being made.
Have patience
Things are coming soon
That’s all I’ll say here
This was already Done
The general consensus as of now is that Plot Manipulation, Concept Type 1 and Info Type 2 are all comparably equivalent to each other by default
No Hax is innately or by default superior to the other in any regard unless by specific inverse context of that being the case
In short summary
1. Remove plot Hax
2. Remove Immeasurable speed from AR
3. Apply Limited NEP 2 and 3; All aspects to D
4. Adjust D’s other resistances a bit
5. Adjust the AR abilities a bit
In any case
Let it be used if people wanna use it
I currently have interest in my own plans as of now...
I think the profile is still open
But if it isn’t then I’m not gonna bother
I asked too many times already and clearly no one paid an interest in having the changes done nor do I know how to edit pages myself
I have no idea where this came from
Considering that I was the one who made the CTR
I personally requested for someone to have the changes applied time and time again
But no one would do it and eventually it was just forgotten about
If there was some argument to keep plot Hax as a power
Then...
Then Yeah
Thou I can’t speak much on MCU thou since I’m low tier when it comes to that fandom
I don’t know if they did some previous CTR about layers or not