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Search results for query: sonic

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  1. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    Hey guys. So, today I will be downgrading the Sonic IDW's Mid Tiers to Relativistic+. The reason is quite simple, actually. EDIT: This is now an upgrade/justification replacement thread. Surge said Sonic "couldn't keep up with her Speed of Light". And that very arrogant line is validated due...
  2. TioKill

    Sonic the Hedgehog (Game) CRT: To New Frontiers

    *7 is a bit underwhelming, still.
  3. TioKill

    Sonic the Hedgehog (Game) CRT: To New Frontiers

    Canonically, is Hyper Sonic even that much stronger than Super Sonic?
  4. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/sonic-and-surge-are-not-lightspeed-sonic-idw.144228/
  5. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Ian's writing is definitely showing when Eggman said Sonic reached Mach 1 too, oof. Well, thankfully now we have an overwhelmingly large backstory to justify FTL Sonic.
  6. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Sonic Prime doesn't seem worth my time, really.
  7. TioKill

    Sonic the Hedgehog (Game) CRT: To New Frontiers

    Super Sonic just barely defeated The End, and it was not even close to it's full power and real form. The statement is likely referring to it's full power which is stronger than Super Sonic
  8. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    We lack the evidence to suggest Super Sonic grow stronger, don't we?
  9. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Why isn't Game Sonic 16, but IDW is?
  10. TioKill

    Sonic the Hedgehog (Game) CRT: To New Frontiers

    Do as you wish, but please keep it separate from this. I do believe there's some solice to this, it has been the second or third instance where Base Sonic - stated to grow faster with each passing second, was able to keep up with previously Super Sonic tier opponents.
  11. TioKill

    Hi Blue, this Sonic CRT seems important and lacks input from Staff, could you take a look...

    Hi Blue, this Sonic CRT seems important and lacks input from Staff, could you take a look? https://vsbattles.com/threads/downgrading-everyones-ap-sonic-idw.143517/
  12. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Flynn only has a mild authority on his own writing, and even then, the IDW are just the same canon as the games, so everything falls apart - he even makes Eggman state Sonic is Mach 1 in Frontiers. He will be a headache for MFTL+ Sonic
  13. TioKill

    Sonic the Hedgehog (Game) CRT: To New Frontiers

    and you think four instances of Plot-Induced Stupidity make it okay and outweigh the incalculable gap between Sonic and Super Sonic?
  14. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Ovrsemantics. He portrays Mach 1 as a relevant speed for Sonic.
  15. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    "Here's an extremely expository line that just happens to be convenient for powerscalers. Gotta go fast!" — Sonic the Frontiers, Hedgehog, 2022. I loved the part where Sonic finally faced Sage and said, "I know no boundaries, Sage. It's time to cross these frontiers", and then Sonic'd all over...
  16. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    Prick behavior aside. I'm adding this to the OP.
  17. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    He just said Sonic moves at Mach 1, bro. Like, 2 days ago. Why are we using Surge's Lightspeed statement again?
  18. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Should we be talking about a show that just released so openly? I'm literally watching episode 2 here, so please chill on the spoilers. I'm making some calcs on Sonic Episode 1 and 2 feats too.
  19. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    That's what you have to do when your character is literally the fastest thing on your Universe
  20. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    In terms of strength, maybe. Not necessarily in speed. Either way, applying this.
  21. TioKill

    Could you take a look at this thread, it involves one of your calcs...

    Could you take a look at this thread, it involves one of your calcs https://vsbattles.com/threads/downgrading-everyones-ap-sonic-idw.143517/
  22. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Literally stated in the games.
  23. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    Most his Hypersonic feats are extremely casual, or are in situations where Sonic is nearly exhausted, such as his High Hypersonic feat. He has consistently been stated to hold back his true speed, and when he finally states to use his max speed, he performs a Rel+ feat, which is only a Rel+...
  24. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    By the way, since you're technically Staff and CGM, could you give your input there about the revision? It's pretty dead. Also, if anyone's a supporter of IDW Sonic, please do give your inputs there too. https://vsbattles.com/threads/downgrading-everyones-ap-sonic-idw.143517/
  25. TioKill

    Sonic the Hedgehog (Game) CRT: To New Frontiers

    Because it still works - metaphorically being "all destruction" is still a form of bragging about your power. Match is a strong word. But sure. This is not what I'm trying to argue, The End sees itself as something greater than our world, this is a very valid interpretation of the line "I am...
  26. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    These will be roooough times for Sonic powerscaling, oof.
  27. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    Absolutely not, at least not until both Base and Super Forms show feats relative to their game counterparts.
  28. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    No. That's sensible. I've adjusted the OP, could you give an input.
  29. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I don't think so. While the promotional material for the Japanese audience is certainly canon, it doesn't justify the script whatsoever - these are two different things. Furthermore, the translator made it clear, it's an adaptation of the original story by Ian Flynn (even referred to as Original...
  30. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    Sonic can keep up with her, and had several statements where he surpasses the SoL. Ian thinks IDW and Game Sonic is Mach 1. He just discredited the line from a character he has some authority over. What Ian thinks outside his field of authority is worthless.
  31. TioKill

    Sonic the Hedgehog (Game) CRT: To New Frontiers

    You don't even argue against to the fact its arrogant, you just said "X doesn't mean Y" and called it a day. No, noting it's arrogance in one instance doesn't mean said character trait couldn't possibly apply to other dialogue - it does make it unreliable. You never gave an argument as to why...
  32. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    The line wasn't the most reliable given it's by an arrogant character. No matter, FTL is valid now
  33. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Annnnd Ian debunked Surge's line. "In Issue 50, Surge told Sonic he couldn't keep up with her speed of light but he does. Are they truly moving at SoL?" Ian: "...? No, she's arrogant". He then goes on an explanation on how Surge does not even know or comprehend how fast light is.
  34. TioKill

    Removing Surge's statements and upgrading speed (Sonic IDW)

    You just forgot to explain why that's FTL rather than SoL too.
  35. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    It is not. Super Sonic surpassed what The End expected, it is as simple as that. it can read Sonic's mind, it KNOWS exactly how strong it's past enemies are. Unlike Sonic, they aren't a constantly changing data I'll just ignore the "scaling standpoint" because you're wrong, plain and simple...
  36. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    You mean speed section? We do use it. For Sonic at least. They're currently scaled to it. Ian answers some very interesting topics about IDW and even Archie comics on his Podcast like, once every two days, it's great.
  37. TioKill

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Do we remove stuff from the profiles based off his statements? Also, does his word does not have weight when it comes to how fast Sonic moves, since he writes him?
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