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No no, if things go right then most of the verse would be tier 11.So if things will go right, I'll be able to see my favorite faceless Creator at the top of the food chain once again?
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No no, if things go right then most of the verse would be tier 11.So if things will go right, I'll be able to see my favorite faceless Creator at the top of the food chain once again?
Right, my bad, Umineko is 1D victim. Almost forgot about thatNo no, if things go right then most of the verse would be tier 11.
No joke, I just asked him. He'll probably ignore my question though, so don't expect muchWill he be content with the new standards considering his previous stance on 1-A?
Already talked to Ultima about this, if Alovenus' mana was what used to allow them to ascend. Then that is an anti-feat to the mana being a higher reality substance because lower reality beings interacted with it by absorbing it.Speaking of, would Ruphas Mafahl benefit from the tiering system changes in any way? The same goes for Alovenus or maybe even Benetnash
So no 1-A Ruphas-Alovenus-Benetnash? That's sad news for meAlready talked to Ultima about this, if Alovenus' mana was what used to allow them to ascend. Then that is an anti-feat to the mana being a higher reality substance because lower reality beings interacted with it by absorbing it.
If the mana is not a higher reality substance then that means Alovenus' realm is not a higher reality because lower reality beings were able to cross over to it without the assistance of a higher reality power, which is a massive anti-feat.
Also Alovenus and Ruphas ascending the higher levels under their own power during their fight, also massive anti-feat to those higher levels being higher realties for the same reason.
Quick update: he possibly didn't even bother reading anythingNo joke, I just asked him. He'll probably ignore my question though, so don't expect much
Nah, she contradicts the new r>f standards.Speaking of, would Ruphas Mafahl benefit from the tiering system changes in any way? The same goes for Alovenus or maybe even Benetnash
Goku >homestuck solos
Yes. We initially said that because the space was insignificant in terms of granting another uncountable infinity, which we previously erroneously referred to as a qualitative superiority. That we no longer refer to it with that term doesn't invalidate the logic.An infinite multiverse has infinite insignificant 5D spaces. You can essentially argue, all tier 2 (aside from low 2-c) require some 5D range. This was acknowledged, but because the space between universes are seen as insignificant, it wouldn’t warrant anything with higher tier due to the lack of qualitive superiority. But now that qualitative superiority is 1-A and above, do we still just treat it as something too insignificant to bother tier?
Looks like Ruphas won't be able to surpass Yogiri.Welp, there goes my wishes of Ruphas Mafahl being cooler than Yogiri...
Type IV Multiverses, by their definition, involve such a structure being equivalent to all of mathematics, so that would be an anti-feat which bumps it down to Low 1-A.Low 1-A is for Type IV Multiverses that only encompass all possible multiverse involving mathematics and dimensions and non-ontological things. High 1-A+ is Type IV Multiverses that is proven to include ontological things like Reality-Fiction and 1-A things.
Yes. That has absolutely nothing to do with these revisions, so it won't be changed.An infinite multiverse has infinite insignificant 5D spaces. You can essentially argue, all tier 2 (aside from low 2-c) require some 5D range. This was acknowledged, but because the space between universes are seen as insignificant, it wouldn’t warrant anything with higher tier due to the lack of qualitive superiority. But now that qualitative superiority is 1-A and above, do we still just treat it as something too insignificant to bother tier?
I guess I need to learn how to reforge my own opinions before quickly throwing them into the trashcan as soon as I find at least a small piece of contradictionHigh 1-A+ are things that are similar to Type IV multiverses, but don't involve the invocation of mathematical equivalence, and include ontological things.
Generally, yeah. ofc there'd always need to be some room for case-by-case stuff.Are platonic concepts and world of forms considered to fall under ontological things or will it be a case by case basis?
They're probably asking because lots of verses invoke a trend of “platonic” beings.Generally, yeah. ofc there'd always need to be some room for case-by-case stuff.
I think that'd still land at 1-A, without a sufficient explanation, given how Ultima has treated all other concepts he's invoked in this revision.If it's just called platonic and they don't show proper qualities of a true platonic concept or lack a sufficient explanation (or have anti-feats) then their not getting 1-A.
All Dao are now outversal.
Chinamen rise up.
Need to wait till everything is put into pages.Well well well. I'm done with my uni exams. I guess I should start cooking up some crts now.
Can we start making tier 1 and above crts now?
Outerversal Doctor Who, here we come!
Could deagon be cooking for onceIt's not really practical to do this. All they really would have to do is refer to someone else's argument.
Because the logic used to place a Monad at Tier 0 is incompatible with the idea that High 1-A transcendence could reach it.
Again, the reasoning used for the proposal is incompatible with this.
Ironically, their username starts both with D. Just pointing that out.
okIf you go back far enough, you can find people complaining about SCP not being above 1-B.
But why should we know that now?If you go back far enough, you can find people complaining about SCP not being above 1-B.